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by Diogenes the Cynic
Sat May 10, 2014 12:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Metacrock is still apologizing...
Replies: 252
Views: 166921

Re: Metacrock is still apologizing...

The internal evidence alone excludes any possibility of eyewitness testimony. They don't claim to come from witnesses. they are riddled with historical anachronisms and errors, they are clearly post-70 (no matter what Roger says, he knows the scholarship is not with him on this), they are written in...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 11:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin and Tertullian refer to the census archives
Replies: 51
Views: 33596

Re: Justin and Tertullian refer to the census archives

Why would a census record say anything about Jesus anyway? At most, it might list the name Joseph, but why would it mention anything about children except possibly a number? Even the name "Yeshua" was common as dirt. There's also no reason that these records would be shipped to Rome. For w...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 10:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans released bodies of the crucified?
Replies: 99
Views: 61360

Re: Romans released bodies of the crucified?

I can't find whatever Ehrman is talking about in the Satyricon . I wonder if he might have made a mistake in the citation. Either that or its just way to subtle for me. Found it! In the narrative of the married woman from Ephesus (111, 5, in the Loeb edition p228-9). And it is very relevant: At thi...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 1:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Metacrock is still apologizing...
Replies: 252
Views: 166921

Re: Metacrock is still apologizing...

I don't find your post coherent enough to respond to in detail. Papias offers no evidence as to the authorship of Canonical Mark and Matthew because he doesn't say anything about Canonical Mark and Matthew. Mark is not derived even indirectly from a Petrine memoir and is, in fact, hostile to Peter a...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 12:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans released bodies of the crucified?
Replies: 99
Views: 61360

Re: Romans released bodies of the crucified?

I don't think you can use that reference from Josephus about what Jews did during an active revolt to what the Romans themselves practiced during normal occupation. Jews looted armories too, that doesn't mean that looting armories was a normal practice under Roman occupation. No, I agree: the circu...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 11:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans released bodies of the crucified?
Replies: 99
Views: 61360

Re: Romans released bodies of the crucified?

I can't find whatever Ehrman is talking about in the Satyricon. I wonder if he might have made a mistake in the citation. Either that or its just way to subtle for me.
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 10:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans released bodies of the crucified?
Replies: 99
Views: 61360

Re: Romans released bodies of the crucified?

I've just looked through several pages looking for that tombstone and am not finding it. Can you point me to the page of the thread? It was in the same post where I first named the references which you quoted. It was very paraphrased and inexact because I was speaking from memory. Ehrman's footnote...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans released bodies of the crucified?
Replies: 99
Views: 61360

Re: Romans released bodies of the crucified?

I don't think you can use that reference from Josephus about what Jews did during an active revolt to what the Romans themselves practiced during normal occupation. Jews looted armories too, that doesn't mean that looting armories was a normal practice under Roman occupation.
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 10:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Metacrock is still apologizing...
Replies: 252
Views: 166921

Re: Metacrock is still apologizing...

Bauckham is a joke. For instance, he thinks Papias is actually evidence and he uses an invented hermenutic whereby he imagines he can tell that Mark is writing from the viewpoints of different witnesses. Bauckham is a fucking hack apologist. Papias is evidence, Gilligan. why would he not be? 'Gilli...
by Diogenes the Cynic
Fri May 09, 2014 8:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: To Q or not to Q? ... that is the question
Replies: 20
Views: 12223

Re: To Q or not to Q? ... that is the question

I think it's almost a distinction without a difference. Nobody thinks Matthew composed the Q material himself, do they? So either way the Q material predates Matthew which means it is only academic whether Luke had access to the material independently, only through Matthew or both.