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by Peter Kirby
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

Is it clear that the Teacher of Righteousness is a figure of the past or present known to the author, rather than an idealized figure or possibly a figure hoped for?
by StephenGoranson
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

John2, it is out of my hands. It is not a matter of what I or you "want."

Because the Teacher and Priest are securely dated before 1 CE, a first-century CE scenario for them is simply excluded.
by John2
Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

Whether you, John2, find any pre-first century proposal about the Teacher and the Priest to your liking is a separate question than whether a first century CE setting for those two is plausible. A first century CE setting for that Teacher and that Priest is excluded. Because facts. You don't have t...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

Whether you, John2, find any pre-first century proposal about the Teacher and the Priest to your liking is a separate question than whether a first century CE setting for those two is plausible.

A first century CE setting for that Teacher and that Priest is excluded.
Because facts.
by John2
Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

Then let's hear some first century BCE ideas (besides Goranson's, which doesn't work for me) I'm all ears. Of all the first century BCE ideas I've heard, spin's Onias the Righteous theory intrigues me the most and I would love to see it fleshed out in more detail (here or in another thread) in the w...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

In this case, on DSS date ranges, I agree with spin and the vast majority of DSS scholars* and scientists. And there have been additional C14 tests and publications--and also more tests, some even older than previous estimates,** only partly published so far--since that 2000 book reporting a 1997 co...
by spin
Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

... first century CE. But, in view of this thread, is it correct to say that you, John2, do claim that all Qumran texts that mention the Teacher of Righteousness and/or the Wicked Priest are all from the first century CE? Yes. I do think the DSS that mention the Teacher fit a first century CE context. ...
by John2
Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

... first century CE. But, in view of this thread, is it correct to say that you, John2, do claim that all Qumran texts that mention the Teacher of Righteousness and/or the Wicked Priest are all from the first century CE? Yes. I do think the DSS that mention the Teacher fit a first century CE context. ...
by spin
Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

... first century CE. But, in view of this thread, is it correct to say that you, John2, do claim that all Qumran texts that mention the Teacher of Righteousness and/or the Wicked Priest are all from the first century CE? Yes. I do think the DSS that mention the Teacher fit a first century CE context. ...
by John2
Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul
Replies: 173
Views: 15928

Re: Hypothesis: Wicked Priest = Herod Agrippa I, Teacher of Righteousness = Simeon of Jerusalem, Man of the Lie = Paul

... first century CE. But, in view of this thread, is it correct to say that you, John2, do claim that all Qumran texts that mention the Teacher of Righteousness and/or the Wicked Priest are all from the first century CE? Yes. I do think the DSS that mention the Teacher fit a first century CE context.