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- Sun May 21, 2017 4:48 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: More thoughts on the Johannine epistles.
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Re: More thoughts on the Johannine epistles.
... still born from Mary (in the manner of gLuke). See http://historical-jesus.info/gospels.html then "find" on >> Basilides (120-140) << Cerdo might have been the very first complete Docetist. And of course Marcion was also a Docetist. So I gave an approximate date of 140 CE which could ...
- Wed May 17, 2017 9:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Tertullian's Praescriptione = Irenaeus's προστάγμασι
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Re: Tertullian's Praescriptione = Irenaeus's προστάγμασι
... of Hegesippus's Chronicle that enjoyed widespread circulation. Irenaeus wanted Marcion to exist. He is takes the place of a shadowy figure called 'cerdo' (= fox) who is also known to near contemporary Jewish literature. The fox was crafty and crafty wisdom was 'fox wisdom' cerdaleophyon. Notice ...
- Mon May 15, 2017 12:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Pattern of Church Fathers Recycling Older Material
- Replies: 29
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The Pattern of Church Fathers Recycling Older Material
... beside the Creator; they affirm that Christ was not in the substance of flesh; they say there is to be no resurrection of the flesh. Chapter VI.-Cerdo, Marcion, Lucan, Apelles. [1] To this is added one Cerdo. He introduces two first causes,68 that is, two Gods-one good, the other cruel:69 the ...
- Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:31 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Why Doesn't Celsus Know Jesus is the Christ?
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Re: Why Doesn't Celsus Know Jesus is the Christ?
... us count Marcion as an apostle (how unless the two figures are one snd the same?). Then he's got multiple names (just like Saul/Paul), Marcion, Cerdo (obviously no predessessor but another name), Scythian. Why Cerdo, not sure. Marcion, little Mark, because Hypolytus thinks his gospel is a version ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:22 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
- Replies: 160
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Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
The clearest explanation of the name Cerdo is that is the most generic appellation. CERDO (κέρδων), a name applied to slaves or lower class of workmen (Juv. 4.153, 8.182; Pers. 4.51), sometimes with the additional name of the trade, as sutor ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:49 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
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Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
... parallel between Marcion and Marcellina both of whom derive their origins from Hegesippus ultimately. Behind Marcion stands the description of Cerdo, behind Marcellina Carpocras. It is odd the way when you go through all the sources both Marcion and Marcellina stand in the midst of a largest ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:39 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
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Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
... author. Reproduced is Epiph's own treatise on Marcion’s canon, from which he gives a number of quotations. Epiph takes reports of Marcion's and Cerdo's teachings as interchangeable, since he regards the latter as Marcion's master. The earliest mention of Marcion is found at Justin Apol. 1.26.5. ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
- Replies: 160
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Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
... seized with jealousy since he could not obtain high rank besides entry into the church, he reflected and took refuge in the sect of that fraud, Cerdo. And he began—at the very beginning, as it were, and as though at the starting-point of the questions at issue—to put this question to the elders ...
- Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
- Replies: 160
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Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
... he is really "eighth.' We read in Wace "In the place already cited from the first book of Irenaeus, in which he speaks of the coming of Cerdo to Rome, all the MSS. agree in describing Hyginus as the ninth bishop from the apostles; and this reading is confirmed by Eusebius (H. E. iv. ...
- Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:27 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
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Re: The Results of Previous Studies of Marcion Are Worthless
... ? or other texts [as well]? A search for 'Marcion' in Irenaeus's Against Heresies produced the following - Against Heresies Book I, Chapter 27 1. Cerdo was one who took his system from the followers of Simon, and came to live at Rome in the time of Hyginus, who held the ninth place in the episcopal ...