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earlydude wrote:. Who are our prime
suspects?

Marcion? Cerdo? Cephas? Ebion? Clement? Simon? Basilides? Paul? Cerinthus? Justin?

None have ever been put forward that carry any credibility.

There are no prime suspects that explain any evidence.

... name is preserved in the historical record. If we consider their means, motive, and opportunity. Who are our prime suspects? Marcion? Cerdo? Cephas? Ebion? Clement? Simon? Basilides? Paul? Cerinthus? Justin? I think various components of the Jesus the Christ of Nazareth story developed ...

... name is preserved in the historical record. If we consider their means, motive, and opportunity. Who are our prime suspects? Marcion? Cerdo? Cephas? Ebion? Clement? Simon? Basilides? Paul? Cerinthus? Justin?

... earlier than, that of Valentinianism”: he took Jesus as a natural offspring of Joseph and Mary.50 Hill proposes that Cerinthus was a predecessor of Cerdo and Marcion, who also taught that the God who made the world was not the highest God, who was proclaimed by Jesus, and that the Creator was ignorant ...

... you suggest) and not directly Mark? Marcion was likely not the first to introduce that dualism. Befor him, gnostics (as Simon Magus, Cerinthus, Cerdo, etc) have already coopted the original Christian message (no surprise in it). Marcion was 'proto-catholic' insofar he was introducing a moderate ...

... gospel 'Antitheses' 58. the Marcionite and Adamantius debate the meaning of the gospel 'Antitheses' in De Recta in Deum Fide 59. Marcion's teacher Cerdo knew the gospel 'Antitheses' and passed it on to him 60. Marcion was the first to call Matthew 5:21 - 48 'the Antitheses' ii) the gospel of Marcion ...

... the bottom line. Marcellina was a 'Carpocratian' for H and E and Celsus but Marcion is said by Irenaeus to have been a associated with a certain Cerdo. But Jerome says Marcellina was the first Marcionite in Rome. Still no progress. But Clement speaks at length about a 'son' of Carpocrates named ...

... of Hyginus. Irenaeus by contrast says that no, the Roman Church suffered a massive infection in that very same period. Not only Valentinus but Cerdo corrupted its doctrines only - and this is significant - Cerdo (and perhaps Valentinus) openly appeared to be orthodox but secretly were heretics. ...

... came to Rome in the time of Hyginus ...' Why is that there? Clearly it is to argue that Marcellina is not the origin of the gnostics. Similarly 'Cerdon, too, Marcion's predecessor, himself arrived in the time of Hyginus ...' Why is that there? First of all, Irenaeus is implicitly saying 'Marcion' ...

... the ninth bishop of Rome in succession after the perfecting of the apostles Peter and Paul The succession list also seemed to specify a certain 'Cerdo' came before Marcion: Cerdo, then, lived in the time of bishop Hyginus, the ninth in succession from the apostles James, Peter and Paul.3 Since ...