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by Secret Alias
Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The (Hegesippan?) list of Roman bishops.
Replies: 201
Views: 129784

Re: The (Hegesippan?) list of Roman bishops.

... martyr faithful. After him succeeds A comrade in the law, and master sure: 375 When lo! the comrade of your wickedness, Its author and forerunner-Cerdo highs- Arrived at Rome, smarting with recent wounds: Detected, for that he was scattering Voices and words of venom stealthily: 380 For which ...
by Giuseppe
Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Lucan Luke? Was Luke Lukan?
Replies: 27
Views: 16019

Was Lucan Luke? Was Luke Lukan?

... virgin. He, starting from the fact that it is said, “Every good tree beareth good fruit, but an evil evil,” attempted to approve the heresy of Cerdo; so that his assertions are identical with those of the former heretic before him. After him arose one Lucan by name, a follower and disciple ...
by Ben C. Smith
Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:38 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Alternating Marcionite and synoptic priority & posteriority?
Replies: 106
Views: 48451

Re: Alternating Marcionite and synoptic priority & posterior

... evidence. Could a Marcionite writer be totally unaware of Marcion's thought on the matter? I have no idea what this is in reference to, sorry. Cerdo, considered by Tertullian as Marcion's predecessor, also believed Jesus on earth did not have a blood family. So I cannot see how you can squeeze ...
by Bernard Muller
Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:29 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Alternating Marcionite and synoptic priority & posteriority?
Replies: 106
Views: 48451

Re: Alternating Marcionite and synoptic priority & posterior

... do you have gMarcion was not written initially by Marcion? Could a Marcionite writer be totally unaware of Marcion's thought on the matter? Cerdo, considered by Tertullian as Marcion's predecessor, also believed Jesus on earth did not have a blood family. So I cannot see how you can squeeze ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:11 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The Marcionite gospel with accompanying sources.
Replies: 44
Views: 70460

Re: The Marcionite gospel with accompanying sources.

... καρποὺς πονηροὺς ποιεῖν» καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς, εἰς τοῦτο φάσκων εἰρῆσθαι <ταῦτα>, τὰ ὑπ' αὐτοῦ κακῶς νοθευόμενα. / Wherefore also they [the Marcionites and Cerdonites] thus employ the evangelical parables, saying, A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, and the rest of the passage. Now Marcion alleges ...
by Secret Alias
Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Reconstructing Marcionism for Morons
Replies: 26
Views: 14081

Re: Reconstructing Marcionism for Morons

... with this statement when he sets forth "one thing" as the fulfilling of many, that is Love. [ibid p. 95 - 98] Marcion's alleged teacher Cerdo knew the Antitheses: Cerdon lived under Antoninus I and claimed that God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and unknown to the prophets, was ...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:30 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A collection of witnesses to the Marcionite texts.
Replies: 56
Views: 55518

Re: A collection of witnesses to the Marcionite texts.

... καρποὺς πονηροὺς ποιεῖν» καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς, εἰς τοῦτο φάσκων εἰρῆσθαι <ταῦτα>, τὰ ὑπ' αὐτοῦ κακῶς νοθευόμενα. Wherefore also they [the Marcionites and Cerdonites] thus employ the evangelical parables, saying, A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, and the rest of the passage. Now Marcion alleges ...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:22 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A collection of witnesses to the Marcionite texts.
Replies: 56
Views: 55518

Re: A collection of witnesses to the Marcionite texts.

... virginis ab ecclesiae communicatione abiectus. Hic ex occasione qua dictum sit, Omnis arbor bona bonos fructus facit, mala autem malos, haeresim Cerdonis approbare conatus est, ut eadem diceret quae ille superior haereticus ante dixerat. After him emerged a disciple of his, one Marcion by name, ...
by Skippy
Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: An Illustration for DCH (Two Powers and Marcionism)
Replies: 23
Views: 13332

Re: An Illustration for DCH (Two Powers and Marcionism)

... thinking, although I'd be less inclined to think Marcion knew anything about it. I think Marcion got his good and just Gods from Platonism. Cerdo, who Tertullian latches the blame for influencing Marcion, may also have developed Platonism, but it seems different enough that he may have got ...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:08 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: A collection of witnesses to the Marcionite texts.
Replies: 56
Views: 55518

Re: A collection of witnesses to the Marcionite texts.

... τῆς ἐκκλησίας, ἐπινοεῖ ἑαυτῷ καὶ προσφεύγει τῇ τοῦ ἀπατεῶνος Κέρδωνος αἱρέσει. 1:1 Marcion, the founder of the Marcionites, taking his cue from Cerdo, appeared in the world as a great serpent himself and became the head of a school by deceiving a throng of people in many ways, even to this day. ...