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- Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:00 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
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Re: Political allegory in the 'exoteric' legend of Jesus
... 'Paul', making the Paul figure compatible with Jewish-Christian faith. John the Baptist's best follower was the historical Simon of Samaria. Cerdo (in Rome) was a follower of Simon, then Marcion was a follower of Simon after Cerdo. Marcion (from Pontus) doesn't write of Simon (from Samaria), ...
- Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
... replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion, and said, "Dost thou know me?" "I do know thee, the first-born of Satan ... Cerdon, too, Marcion's predecessor, himself arrived in the time of Hyginus, who was the ninth bishop.(5) Coming frequently into the Church, and making ...
- Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
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Re: On dating the Gospels late e.g. 120CE
... or under Antoninus (Tertullian)? Was he a member of the church at Rome under Telesforus and a heretic under Hyginus (Tertullian), or a follower of Cerdo under the reign of Anicetus (Irenaeus)?" [Joseph Tyson Marcion and Luke-Acts p. 28] Tyson acknowledges that Clement's report (a) derives ...
- Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:47 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
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Re: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
... 'Paul', making the Paul figure compatible with Jewish-Christian faith. "John the Baptist's best follower was the historical Simon of Samaria. Cerdo (in Rome) was a follower of Simon, then Marcion was a follower of Simon after Cerdo. Marcion (from Pontus) doesn't write of Simon (from Samaria), ...
- Thu May 15, 2014 8:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
- Replies: 43
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Re: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
... many by his magical art. And he persuaded his followers that they should not die. And there are still some of them that assert this.” And then Cerdo and Marcion - "Cerdo was one who took his system from the followers of Simon, and came to live at Rome in the time of Hyginus, who held the ...
- Thu May 15, 2014 7:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
- Replies: 43
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Re: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
... the head of the Simonians, Menander thinks something 'like Simon' but he is not explicitly said to be a followers of Simon but interestingly (1) Cerdo is said to have been an offshoot of Simon (2) Marcion is said to be an offshoot of Simon and the (3) gnostics are said to be offshoots of Simon ...
- Thu May 15, 2014 7:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
- Replies: 43
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Re: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
... Book One is actually meant to be taken as a chronological arrangement - i.e. first came Valentinus in the reign of Hyginus 138 - 142 CE then came Cerdo in the reign of Pius 142 - 157 CE then came Marcion in the reign of Anicetus 157 - 168 CE but that the Gnostics who followed Menander came even ...
- Thu May 15, 2014 6:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
- Replies: 43
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Re: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
... which emerges here Menander Saturninus/ilus Cerinthus Ebionites Nicolatians Tatian & the Encratites There was no reference to Carpocrates, Cerdo, Marcion and the rest (Carpocrates comes from Hegesippus, the two accounts of Marcion are totally different). The difficulty though is that Tatian ...
- Thu May 15, 2014 5:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
- Replies: 43
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Re: Simon Magus Invented the Four Gospel tradition?
... of Irenaeus Adv Haer 1.23 - 31: Simon Magus Menander Saturninus Basilides Carpocrates - - - - - - > Hegesippus Cerinthus Ebionites Nicolaitanes Cerdo - - - - - - - - - - > Marcion - - - - - - - - - > Tatian & Encratites (Ends with broad statement tying up the last section as a unit) "Others, ...
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Markus Vinzent on 'Marcion the Jew'
- Replies: 31
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Re: Markus Vinzent on 'Marcion the Jew'
Andrew,
Yes it's THE big Marcionite question. Who the heck or what the heck is 'Cerdo'? A fox? The second century Alexandrian Patriarch? Who knows.
Yes it's THE big Marcionite question. Who the heck or what the heck is 'Cerdo'? A fox? The second century Alexandrian Patriarch? Who knows.