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... verifyable conjectures. There is chatter that says Marcion did not really write the Faulines, but published work he got from his teachers-mentors. Cerdo is mentioned and a line potential mentors running back to Simon Magus. Ireneaus mentions Cerinthus . My conjecture is that Marcion edited and ...

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:52 pm The first collector of the epistles was Marcion

• The first known collector of the epistles was Marcion

Giuseppe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:52 pm Marcion was a Simonian (via Cerdo)

• That's probably a heresiological trope developed to besmirch Marcion further

The first collector of the epistles was Marcion . Marcion was a Simonian ( via Cerdo). There is no link at all between Simon Magus and Pilate , despite all the attempts to find at least one. Threrefore: the killers of Simon Magus were "the Jews". Answer ...

... is placed in by Eusebius is no later than Trajan's time (117 CE) and Marcion is placed no earlier than the time of Pope Hyginus (138-142 CE) via Cerdo. And the only gospels Papias is said to have known were Mark and Matthew, with the latter in Hebrew and multiple translations. There is no "Marcion's ...

... the epistles kind of late I think, to at least the very late 1st century around the time we know folks with this kind of thinking were operating (Cerdo/Saturnil/Basilides/maybe Cerinthus) This leaves the gospels as the earlier texts as MLinssen proposes, and gives the reason for why the epistles ...

what to make of this gnostic text hat tipping Paul then delivering a hardcore gnostic sermon? maybe this is a Cerdo text I don't know what to make of it, but "Hypostasis of the Archons" is an awesome title for a book. Since it is an allegorical interpretation of Genisis, ...

what to make of this gnostic text hat tipping Paul then delivering a hardcore gnostic sermon? maybe this is a Cerdo text On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth, the great apostle – referring to the "authorities of the ...

... fans have been looking for: It explicitly says that Marcion's gospel and his letter collection *preceeded* Marcion, indeed already being touted by Cerdo. It doesn't even say that Cerdo cut them down, it just says he accepted those texts and rejected the other gospels and Revelation.

ebion wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:06 pm “Of the Apostle Paul he (Cerdo) takes neither all the epistles, nor in their integrity” (Against All Heresies 6; Pseudo-Tertullian).

Wow, who is this pseudo tertullian, and how seriously can we take him? Seems like evidence for a pre-marcion edition of a puine letter collection.

Cerdo, according to the proto-orthodox heresy hunters, was earlier than Marcion and one of them clearly associates him with a collection of Pauline letters: “A certain Cerdo, originating from the Simonans, came to Rome under ...