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... before he broke away from it. This is what the heresy-hunters theorized. But they also tell us Marcion's chain of apostolic succession: Marcion, Cerdo, Simon Magus, Philip the Apostle, Jesus. The remarkable fact is that Marcion could trace his beliefs back to Jesus better than any of his critics ...

... and an ascension, and boom! It's no longer heretical at all! But fit to take its place next to Mark as the very heart of the 4-fold gospel. Cerdon, too, Marcion's predecessor, I'm glad you mentioned Cerdo, because it brings us to the issue of Marcion's line of apostolic succession. All church ...

... I have similar misgivings about the pat "Simon Magus" in the Clementines = Paul. And I think you have to look at Marcion's teachers - Cerdo? I'm wondering if our picture of Simon Magus has been Rufinized/Latined/Greeked? There are only 3 generations between James and MarcionOrLater, ...

... with this statement when he sets forth "one thing" as the fulfilling of many, that is Love. [ibid p. 95 - 98] 55. Theodoret's account of Cerdon - Cerdon lived under Antoninus I and claimed that God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and unknown to the prophets, was different from the ...

But don't feel convinced the Saturnil/Cerdo types were properly Simonian... There may not even have been a historical Simon. But that is really kind of beside the point for, as Richard Carrier, puts it: “The historicity of this Simon has been ...

I suspect that Cerdo was a Simonian Christian of the Saturnilian variety, and that as much as 80% of the seven so-called authentic Paulines was actually the work of Saturnilians. Stepping back and avoiding specifics there are curious ...

Continuing: I suspect that Cerdo was a Simonian Christian of the Saturnilian variety, and that as much as 80% of the seven so-called authentic Paulines was actually the work of Saturnilians. Roger, my point is that in proto-Mark when Simon ...

... largely repackaged and repurposed Simonian material. In the case of the Paulines I think it was probably the Simonian Satornilus, but possibly Cerdo, who worked the transformation magic. I don’t have any more time today for this. But I can leave you with an assignment. The title “Son of Man” ...

... what you mean by "invented" he makes an appearance in Acts....Iraneus gives Marcion's chain of apostolic descent as being a student of Cerdo, student of Simon Magus, student of Philip the Apostle. You mean all mentions of him are post-nicean forgeries? 10) The multiplicity of "early" ...

... is an evocative association, and Marcion's gospel is 80% Mark, and all the church father's agree that Marcion's line of apostolic decent went from Cerdo, through Simon Magus, to Philip the Apostle. Perhaps its just routine heresy-bashing rhetoric, but I rather suspect there's some germ of truth ...