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by rakovsky
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?
Replies: 39
Views: 44966

Re: What is the real relationship between the Testamonium and the stories of Paulina and Fulvia?

... out of an earlier, neutral one. The main reason for their skepticism is that they think that Josephus was not Christian. But some scholars like Whiston and Eisenman and others whom we have discussed on the forum think that the current Testamonium is original.
by lsayre
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is it Fair to Say that Joseph of Arimathea Was Introduced to Prove the Empty Tomb Was Miraculous?
Replies: 38
Views: 43388

Re: Is it Fair to Say that Joseph of Arimathea Was Introduced to Prove the Empty Tomb Was Miraculous?

There used to be those who believe, even today, that Josephus was a closet Christian. I think this goes back to William Whiston in the early decades of the 18th century. Do you suspect this? I've actually once ran across a business manager at one company I visited who confidently ...
by DCHindley
Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is it Fair to Say that Joseph of Arimathea Was Introduced to Prove the Empty Tomb Was Miraculous?
Replies: 38
Views: 43388

Re: Is it Fair to Say that Joseph of Arimathea Was Introduced to Prove the Empty Tomb Was Miraculous?

... quite logical to me. There used to be those who believe, even today, that Josephus was a closet Christian. I think this goes back to William Whiston in the early decades of the 18th century. Do you suspect this? I've actually once ran across a business manager at one company I visited who ...
by DCHindley
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What are the oldest manuscripts we have of modern liturgies used in the Catholic, Orthodox, and non-Chalc. churches?
Replies: 5
Views: 4350

Re: What are the oldest manuscripts we have of modern liturgies used in the Catholic, Orthodox, and non-Chalc. churches?

... to the seventeenth centuries A.D. 1 Didascalia et Constitutiones Apostolorum (Paderbom, 1905) There is an old but serviceable translation by Wm Whiston ( The Constitutions of the Holy Apostles by Clement in Greek and English (Primitive Christianity Reviv'd, Vol 2, 1711), which was later anonymously ...
by DCHindley
Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 41
Views: 42298

Re: Philip

The wording of the English translation seemed odd to my modern ear (Whiston published his translation in 1737 CE or so), so I looked closer. JOE Wars of the Jews 4:81 nor did anyone escape [Gamala] except two women (διεσώθη δὲ πλὴν δύο γυναικῶν οὐδείς), who ...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:01 am
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The baptism and death of Jesus as bookends (for John2).
Replies: 7
Views: 6623

The baptism and death of Jesus as bookends (for John2).

... is his own preference or was current among his fellow Jews. But what is important for our purposes is what was actually depicted upon the veil: Whiston translates it as "all that was mystical in the heavens," but the Greek phrase is more literally rendered as "the entire heavenly ...
by Charles Wilson
Sat May 05, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Papias and the disciples of the Lord.
Replies: 140
Views: 137100

Re: Papias and the disciples of the Lord.

... promoters of the mourners for the doctors stood in a body in the temple, procuring recruits for their faction..." This differs from the Whiston translation. Next, you have to accept that the Markan Passage refers to this moment at the Temple Slaughter of4 BCE. This would imply that James ...
by Ben C. Smith
Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Galileans, ambiguous oracles, Christians, and the generational prophecy.
Replies: 89
Views: 67069

Re: Galileans, ambiguous oracles, Christians, and the generational prophecy.

... Oracles might happily join Shiloh and the Star and other candidates alongside Daniel, which must remain primary (at least for Josephus). While Whiston would have had no difficulty agreeing with you that the reference must be to something in the book of Daniel, Josephus never actually says that. ...
by DCHindley
Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Galileans, ambiguous oracles, Christians, and the generational prophecy.
Replies: 89
Views: 67069

Re: Galileans, ambiguous oracles, Christians, and the generational prophecy.

... Josephus uses a whole lot), here follows. I do not pretend to have found or presented every possible incidence. Analysis of the Ambiguous Oracle: Whiston's translation: JOE Wars of the Jews 4:386 These men [the Zealot Party], therefore, trampled upon all the laws of men, and laughed at the laws ...
by DCHindley
Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Are Historicists So Certain That Jesus Existed?
Replies: 322
Views: 212198

Re: Why Are Historicists So Certain That Jesus Existed?

... the soldiers, and came up to them, and stoned [λεύουσιν] the greatest number of them, although some of them ran away wounded That translation (Whiston) makes it sound like the crowd pelted the soldiers with stones (happens all the time in modern Israel between Palestinian youth and Israeli ...