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by StephenGoranson
Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Most Manuscripts are not Primary Sources
Replies: 164
Views: 276014

Re: Most Manuscripts are not Primary Sources

Lucretius, De rerum natura is known from one manuscript dated 1483; that late date does not make it a forgery. Of course old manuscript finds, such as Qumran, are most welcome. Of course I think there are forgeries, e.g. that Clement did not write "To Theodore." But older is not always bet...
by StephenGoranson
Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Most Manuscripts are not Primary Sources
Replies: 164
Views: 276014

Re: Most Manuscripts are not Primary Sources

That is not an example of forging a work of Origen. I give you credit for submitting an article to J. of Hellenic Studies. (I do wonder why you chose that journal, rather than J. of Roman Studies, or the like.) And credit for publishing the explanation why it was not accepted. Yet, you seem not to h...
by StephenGoranson
Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism
Replies: 254
Views: 144341

Re: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism

Of course good history research is possible!
I am trying to say that if one first excludes, for example, even the possibility of oral transmission, then the quality of the result will be negatively affected.
by StephenGoranson
Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Most Manuscripts are not Primary Sources
Replies: 164
Views: 276014

Re: Most Manuscripts are not Primary Sources

LC/P.R.F. Brown (Toth?) etc., it is your de facto application of sources that do not comport with the work of historians that you quote piecemeal. One example. I wrote above in part: "there is a lack of any "primary source" manuscript evidence for his [LC's] assertion that Christianit...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism
Replies: 254
Views: 144341

Re: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism

This is so stupid.
Do you know all that was written down?
Do you know all that was spoken?
by StephenGoranson
Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism
Replies: 254
Views: 144341

Re: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism

RH, above, in part:
"....the only real place anybody ever could have gotten these ideas is from a written text."
Oh, does no person ever talk with you?
by StephenGoranson
Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism
Replies: 254
Views: 144341

Re: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism

rgprice wrote above that other (than Mark) sayings could have come from "Anywhere," but a priori excludes one possible source. Rookie move.
by StephenGoranson
Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism
Replies: 254
Views: 144341

Re: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism

So, is your view that because sometimes people make up stuff, like you do, that somehow your currently-preferred-though-changing sorting of such is the truth?
by StephenGoranson
Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism
Replies: 254
Views: 144341

Re: Dr. Sarah's Friendly Refutation of all Mythicism

iiuc, rgprice, you hold to gospel priority of Mark.
That is a quite respectable opinion, if not absolute truth, as your rookie bombast pretends.
But where might other sayings of Jesus, not limited to canon, have come from?