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by John2
Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

So the Damascus Document refers "the Way" and "the New Covenant" in a place called Damascus, expects a singular Messiah with priestly and royal aspects to come in the Last Days, believed in eternal life, cited similar OT verses (like the fallen tent of David) that are found in th...
by John2
Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

Michael BG wrote: "Recognitions of Clement is not a reliable source of information as they are often dated to the 4th century." As I mentioned earlier, the Clementine literature "have an arguable Jewish Christian Grundschrift, as discussed by Kelley here:" https://books.google.co...
by John2
Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

Outhouse wrote (regarding the Damascus Document): "To late to be used in ANY aspect for the origin of Christianity. Do you mean you think it's too early to be used for the origin of Christianity (at least the fragments of it that were found at Qumran)? Or do you mean the later copies that were ...
by John2
Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

Regarding the concept of being "called by name," col. 2 of the Damascus Document connects this with a singular Messiah: “He raised for Himself men called by name … and through his Anointed [or Messiah, which is singular in Hebrew and in Schechter's translation here but is made plural by em...
by John2
Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

I thought I'd expand a little on my last post regarding the word nilvim in the Damascus Document (who are one of the three classes of people mentioned in the esoteric interpretation of Ezk. 44:15). As Cohen notes on page 122 of "The Beginnings of Jewishness: Boundaries, Varieties, Uncertainties...
by John2
Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

Michael BG wrote: "I have the impression that the Qumran community did have its own priesthood and structure based on Judaism, but I am not aware of anyone making a case that Christians had such a structure in the first century." The Qumran community, at least in the Damascus Document, had...
by John2
Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Temple?
Replies: 62
Views: 32406

Re: Temple?

Thanks for the nice responses, iskander.
by John2
Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

Thanks for the collated response, Michael BG. My comments were a little scattershot. My brain isn't fully on this subject at the moment and I was responding to people's comments as I came across them. Incidentally, regarding an observation of Bauckham about "the way" in the link I gave (bu...
by John2
Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

The DSS also use the terms qahal (http://biblehub.com/hebrew/6951.htm) and edah (http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5712.htm) to describe their assembly, in addition to yachad. I've got a colossal headache at the moment, but I've been thinking about resurrecting an old thread I did here on the DSS and Chris...
by John2
Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 183809

Re: The Origins of Christianity

Michael BG wrote: ""I don’t think anyone believes there was a structured church in Judea with priests and bishops by 70 CE." Whether or not the church (or assembly) in Judea was structured with priests and bishops, at least according to Acts 6:7 it consisted of a "large number&qu...