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by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Savior
Replies: 22
Views: 16341

Re: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Sa

Homily 1 on Jeremiah. This text was identified as (more like) Origen's (than anyone else). The "fragments from the catena" of "on Jeremiah" (which were closest to Clement of Alexandria) begin here: https://books.google.com/books?id=UFInXpKNapEC&pg=PA280 http://snag.gy/XU1Xy....
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Savior
Replies: 22
Views: 16341

Re: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Sa

My title is tongue-in-cheek, based on Peter's stylometric results suggesting that Origen's Homily on Jeremiah is actually by Clement of Alexandria. Anyway, I decided to check out this document I have never heard of and found a translation I can preview at Google Books. https://books.google.com/book...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 93786

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

The text known as the ' Homiliae in Lucam ' divides into three samples of approximately 3000 words each. Quotes are removed first. When compared against Eusebius, 'Origen' is picked as the most likely candidate 3 out of 3 times (100% accuracy). When compared against 33 candidates, including the cont...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 93786

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

At 1865 words, the work known as the ' Fragmenta in librum primum Regnorum ' seems to be too short to get an accurate estimate of its Origen-ish-lish-ness. Either that, or it might not be by Origen. testsize: 1865 $VAR1 = 131; $VAR2 = 115; $VAR3 = 30; $VAR4 = 98; $VAR5 = 33; $VAR6 = 25; $VAR7 = 1; $...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 93786

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

The work called the ' De engastrimytho ( Homilia in i Reg. [i. Sam.] 28.3-25 )' measures 3574 words in length. Using the same 33 words used in every other test with Origen so far, and using the Contra Celsum as the sample representing the author 'Origen', the sample identifies Origen as the best can...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 93786

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

This bit about the 'Fragmenta in Jeremiam' possibly being a composition of Clement of Alexandria seems like the first 'interesting' result so far.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 93786

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Two samples were taken of another homily on Jeremiah (' Fragmenta in Jeremiam ') known through the catenae (3421 and 3139 words in length). Direct quotes were removed first. Both of these two samples provided a dramatically better match with Clement of Alexandria than they did with Origen (Clement's...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 93786

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Five samples are taken of the homilies known as ' In Jeremiam '. The samples are taken along homily divisions: 1st Homily (3355 words), 2nd-4th Homily (2726 words), 5th Homily (4047 words), 6th-8th Homily (3866 words), and 9th-11th Homily (3922 words). Direct quotes were removed first. For all five,...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nonsynoptic texts and the synoptic problem.
Replies: 40
Views: 23725

Re: Nonsynoptic texts and the synoptic problem.

What about non-Christian texts? Josephus' Wars and Antiquities supply some material for the Synoptic Gospels. The Beelzebul passage in Mark might be based on the Testament of Solomon. It's a good question. (Of course, I have examined the most-frequently-proffered evidence of Mark's use of Josephus ...