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by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Mark makes it clear the identity of the god who sent the spirit who defended Jesus against the temptations in the wilderness who otherwise would have won his human nature: And a voice came from heaven: “ You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased .” At once the Spirit sent him out into...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Psalm 2:7 is spoken by YHWH : 7 I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Isaiah 42:1 is spoken by YHWH : 1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the natio...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Mark makes it clear the identity of the god who sent the spirit who defended Jesus against the temptations in the wilderness who otherwise would have won his human nature: And a voice came from heaven: “ You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased .” At once the Spirit sent him out into...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

If the Temptation Story didn't target Marcion and was a mere general innocent concept, then how do you explain this curious "signature" by Mark ? But the Mark's solution betrayes the presence of Marcionites who would have accused easily: humanity == infection of sin. Mark's answer: humani...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

If the Temptation Story didn't target Marcion and was a mere general innocent concept, then how do you explain this curious "signature" by Mark ? But the Mark's solution betrayes the presence of Marcionites who would have accused easily: humanity == infection of sin. Mark's answer: humanit...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

And somehow only Marcionites ever considered the idea that humans are sinful, so it relates to Marcionism... that is indeed the implication, since it is a fact that "only Marcionites ever considered the idea that human births are sinful , so the birth via holy spirit relates to Marcionism"...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

(...continuing...) Mark emphasizes the difference between the Jesus before the baptism, a sinful Jesus in need of purification via baptism ...and the Jesus after the baptism: a Jesus defended successfully by the holy spirit against the temptations in the wilderness. Hence it is self-evident that Mar...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

If Hebrews doesn't persuade you, what about Romans 8:3 ? For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering Marcion interpreted this verse to mean docetism : Jesus only appeared to be in the s...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Replies: 49
Views: 720

Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite

Hebrews is working out a concept of a perfect sacrifice, in order to provide an explanation of how Jesus replaced once and for all the use of sacrifices. are you aware of Turmel's case for the Hebrews's passage being anti-marcionite? We read in II, 16-17 the following observation: “Surely it is not...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New book on Yeshu ha-Notsri
Replies: 2
Views: 138

Re: New book on Yeshu ha-Notsri

The intriguing hypothesis advanced by this book, even if his author is strongly indebted to Rene Salm, is that Jesus was parodied as Dositheus. Both are said to be followers of John the Baptist Both are accused to have learned magic in Egypt Both are said to be connected with Simon Magus I don't fol...