those what? dates?perseusomega9 wrote:Well Price does date the gospels to the mid to late 2nd century; and there's the issue of dating Marcion by the claims of the heresiologists. If we go by Huller's Alias then we also have the issue that Marcion means those of Mark.
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- Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:59 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: On the fabricated mythicist "Pauli"...
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- Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Some people don't like Carrier's application of them.
- Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:00 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
I hope everyone does know that the definition of Euhemerism means complete diddly squat outside of anything but the definition of Euhemerism. That's just the way definitions are. They change nothing but our language for describing things. That being the case, it's strange how involved people are in...
- Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Well now, finally an admission from Carrier that he is seeking to use an ' adaptive ' version of Euhemerus. An adaptive version of Euhemerus which another poster on his blog has already labeled 'carrierization'... You're being highly disingenuous - Carrier refers to (i) 'theists euhemerizing their ...
- Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: An Illustration for DCH (Two Powers and Marcionism)
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Re: An Illustration for DCH (Two Powers and Marcionism)
Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:31 am Earlier in the book* [ Judith Lieu ] is highly skeptical of any reconstructions of Marcion's text and basically concludes that Tertullian and others didn't actually have any Marcionite texts in front of them when writing. * 'Marcion and the Making of a Heretic' As Stephan e...
- Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:07 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Your mistaken No, I'm not. - that is the whole point of Euhemerus - the origin of the Olympian gods was earthly - whether you want to say that origin was legend or history. The theory of Euhemerus regarding the Olympian gods is that their origin was earthly. Yes, Euhemerus portrayed them as 'earthy...
- Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Think also that Second Century apologists invoked the name of Euhemerus to show that the pagan gods were only men -- see my examples in my earlier post. It wouldn't make much sense to have them claim "Your celestial gods are really men who ascended to heaven as gods". No, their claims wer...
- Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Euhemerus was writing about the origin of the Olympian gods. Sure, one can argue that the Olympian gods were just legends; legends without any historicity. However, the point Euhemerus was making still stands - the Olympian gods were products of human projection i.e. it was humans that put the Olym...
- Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Whether Euhemerus did it deliberately or inadvertently is beside the point. I agree with Giuseppe: what Euhemrus did is what is named after him - No, he isn't saying [ any ] thing in contradiction with Roubekas. ... I find useful this distinction by Dr Carrier between what Euhemerus DID and what wa...
- Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:36 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
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Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je
Euhemerus was re-writing history.maryhelena wrote:Marek Winiarczyk: The Sacred History of Euhemerus of Messene
According to Euhemerus, Uranus, Cronus and Zeus were ancient rulers who started being worshipped as gods.