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But we don't know precisely if the historical Zeus (as euhemerized by Euhemerus) was 'miracled up' and to which degree (if he was) - the book being lost -, therefore I would prefer a more general definition of Euhemerism as casting of celestial into terrestrial. I doubt surely that Euhemerus claime...

Anyway, I don't think that affects your mythicist theory. There is nothing to stop ancient people from taking a celestial god and creating a story about a man on earth who becomes a god. You're over-extending and misrepresenting by stating it's about "creating a story about a man on earth who ...

It's very strange. Carrier gives the correct definition of Euhemerizing, states that it "is doing what Euhemerus did" -- turning a god into a man -- and then ignores the ramifications. The end result is a MAN, not a man who becomes a god. It is a man who dies as a god, and is then posthum...

Cheers, Peter. You're comments help contextualize a number of things. I agree that Tertullian and Cyprian "are not interdependent as evidence", but I had assumed Cyprian might be more dependent on Tertullian by way of locality and chronology (Cyprian following Tertullian) As I had for the ...

side note: Richard Carrier's latest blog post - back to the euhemerism issue...... Euhemerization Means Doing What Euhemerus Did http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/8161 Thank you. Carrier clarifies this well well (cf. Wikipedia and other articles or discussion I've seen). I've cut and pas...

Thanks Peter Why are you "grouping" any of them? What does this grouping have to do with the epistemic foundation of investigation into ancient Christianity? Because the current information about the works attributed to those people suggests strong relationships within those groups, and it...

I don't "group" them because they have different authors . The works attributed to some, several, or all of that group are written by other un-named people? In their time or later? You can (temporarily) remove Eusebius from the picture entirely and work without him, if you're paranoid abo...

The names you could use for this approach include: Justin Martyr Irenaeus Clement of Alexandria Tertullian Origen Cyprian Eusebius These seven authors can provide, epistemically, the foundation of the investigation of ante-Nicene Christianity. They should be analyzed in conjunction with the documen...

There is all this information out there (i.e. Baarda's Flying Jesus from the Diatessaron etc) but it just sits there because it doesn't fit into our traditional assumptions. http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35117#p35117 I think that the place to start is here http://www.jstor.org/...

So to summarize this rather speculative investigation, I think Chrestos was a Greek translation of an underlying Aramaic terminology which in turn translated the Hebrew terminology for 'Apostle.' According to this premise by the time the Greek translation was made the concept of the sheliach became...