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by ABuddhist
Tue May 02, 2023 4:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

Cite some documents. Well, the Lotus Sutra, a lengthy prose-and-verse narrative claiming to be truth which is regarded by nonMahayana Buddhists and nonBuddhists as having arisen between 50 CE and 150 CE (Kajiyama, Yuichi (2000), "The Saddharmapundarika and Sunyata Thought", Journal of Ori...
by ABuddhist
Tue May 02, 2023 4:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

What's persuasive about a vague statement like this? Please provide actual evidence for your claims. How is it vague? Do you literally not believe my claims about Buddhist literature? Would you like me to provide to you titles of Buddhist texts from antiquity in combination with numbers of pages fr...
by ABuddhist
Tue May 02, 2023 4:04 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian
Replies: 92
Views: 6978

Re: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian

Secret Alias wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 3:57 am I welcome any evidence of Greek influence on the surviving Hebrew text which has parallels in the LXX.
Many thanks for clarifying what you mean.
by ABuddhist
Tue May 02, 2023 4:03 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian
Replies: 92
Views: 6978

Re: Plato and the Creation of a Classical Historian

Gmirkin (in typical fashion) found a word in the MT that he says was influenced by Greek. But the word appears in neither the Samaritan Pentateuch or the LXX. In short a fail. Why does that prove that Gmirkin was wrong? Evidence, which you have been unwilling to read or consider, is that the relati...
by ABuddhist
Tue May 02, 2023 3:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

How do you know this? Very few persuasive arguments begin with "How do you know this?" But not all arguments which are unpersuasive, as you admit. You also ignored the rest of my argument. Are you aware of the Buddhist literature, dating back over 1,000 years, dealing with Shakyamuni Budd...
by ABuddhist
Mon May 01, 2023 6:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

Ancient novels, in which fictional characters and situations took place in real historical settings, existed Name me an ancient religion developed around a novel. Why limit it to ancient religions? Mormonism is a religion based upon a novel which its followers think to be true. In the same way, the...
by ABuddhist
Mon May 01, 2023 6:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

There is no equivalent in any of the sources you've witnessed to the overt historical interest of the gospel and the earliest Christian Church Father's. How do you know this? Are you aware of the Buddhist literature, dating back over 1,000 years, dealing with Shakyamuni Buddha's life? Yet much of i...
by ABuddhist
Mon May 01, 2023 6:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

The earliest Christians to a man/woman believed the crucifixion was a real historical event. I believe that they were correct about this, if they believed such a thing. But that is separate from whether gospels were true. Furthermore, why are you so confident about this claim? Neither the Pauline l...
by ABuddhist
Mon May 01, 2023 5:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

And the gospel is many times time stamped. The year according to everyday time and the chronology of 490 years from Daniel. This isn't a prank. This is an outright lie if there was no historical event. Why are you assuming that the gospels were not a prank or an outright lie? people lie for religio...
by ABuddhist
Mon May 01, 2023 5:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?
Replies: 86
Views: 12209

Re: Is the claim that Jesus's historicity is irrelevant for Christian origins as controversial as mythicism is?

There's no evidence for any of this in antiquity. If there was you'd have brought it up by now. There is, actually. The Bhagvad Gita is a narrative poem about events which did not happen which people turned into the basis for a type of religious practise which would later be lumped into Hinduism. S...