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by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

The first of the gospels we have seems likely to have been written in Rome for reasons I've gone into here ad nauseam. The canonical gospels yes. But who cares? What implication does that have on the ur-texts of Justin and Marcion at the heart of the debate in Adversus Marcionem. Adversus Marcionem...
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

1 Corinthians 10:20 also cited Deuteronomy 32:17 so the concept was central to Christianity. Solomon established the (false) temple to demons rather than god.
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

The author of the Testimony of Truth knows the same tradition as Gittin 68 based on the wording of Ecclesiastes. Both John and the Marcionite gospel began in or near Jerusalem not Galilee (= Irenaeus for instance of Marcion "But Jesus being derived from that father who is above the God that mad...
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

The same tradition is known to many Christian sources including the author of Nag Hammadi's Testimony of Truth: They are wicked in their behavior! Some of them fall away to the worship of idols. Others have demons dwelling with them, as did David the king. He is the one who laid the foundation of Je...
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Views: 132308

Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

Where did you get this "house of demons" other than a riff on Ephrem's use of בית צידא? I got me sharim and sharoth, and the delights of the sons of men, shidah (שידה) and shidoth (וְשִׁדּוֹת) [Eccel 2.8] and a multi68. tude of sources including Gittin 68. One of dozens of sources Christi...
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

Then again, one doesn't need a direct Hebrew connection
But that's not the same thing as saying it wasn't the origin either. So you think the shift from Nazarene to Nazareth was done from by an adventurous Greek or Latin speaker/writer? That is more likely than a Syriac speaker/writer?
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

I take synagogue to be a replacement for the implicit understanding of 'beth saida' as demon house (from Ecclesiastes) which = the temple of Jerusalem. Like John the ur-gospels began with Jesus making an appearance at the temple.
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

Ephrem's text read bethsaida too but he took it to be a village on a high mountain too (where Jesus was pushed off or passed through a crowd and then flew away safely to the ground). Hard to have a 'fishing village' on a mountain. The reference is explicit to a 'synagogue' in Ephrem's text not clear...
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
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Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

what makes you think that Markion acknowledged Lk 4:16 at all I don't know that he 'acknowledged it' in the sense that it was verbatim. It said 'bethsaida' which I take (because of Nag Hammadi's Testimony of Truth and other documents) to be 'house of demons' which is a reference to the temple in Je...
by Secret Alias
Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?
Replies: 247
Views: 132308

Re: Evidence for first-century Nazareth?

https://books.google.com/books?id=eJMDCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA398&lpg=PA398&dq=ephrem+galatians+first+Pauline+canon&source=bl&ots=c9w-fp2MdW&sig=XkjLz5Ek_DXaOiqnqHP12XSMscM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiq27Sf39DPAhUW0WMKHR3WDHUQ6AEIODAF#v=onepage&q=ephrem%20galatians%20first%2...