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by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 102
Views: 697

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Secret Alias wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:59 pm Knowledge has an in itself value. There's no justification needed for saying "hey I discovered something."
Alright.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 102
Views: 697

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Secret Alias wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:48 pm The title of the thread is " Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives"
To what end? Maybe we can make a calendar with all these Greek monks. Call it the Monk of the Month?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 102
Views: 697

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

That's not the point. Surely Seraphim and Kallistos preserve the original attitude of the Mar Saba monastery and before you people spread around these "gay gospel" reports which poisoned the well with the Patriarchate. Yes it's the original attitude. Yes some of these monks were there bef...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 102
Views: 697

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

As I have repeatedly written, the front cover, the front page, and the spine binding had all gone missing, erasing potential marks of previous, non Mar Saba ownership. I know. https://web.archive.org/web/20110616022558/http://www-user.uni-bremen.de/~wie/Secret/discussion-hoax.html Stephen Carlson a...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 102
Views: 697

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Was there any evidence in the Isaac Voss edition about its prior ownership? Notes in it from other hands, besides the famous one?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?
Replies: 11
Views: 102

Re: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?

My point here is different: Even assuming the more subtle concession a conservative reader may give to the storm called Marcion, i.e. that both Marcion and Luke are based on a proto-Luke (in turn based on Matthew), the result is still a strong shadow of doubt on the certainty that a first gospel (M...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?
Replies: 11
Views: 102

Re: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?

It's an argument only a mother could love. Haven't there always been gospels dated to the second century?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?
Replies: 11
Views: 102

Re: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?

Giuseppe wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:11 pm My point is more sound: once a canonical synoptic gospel is placed around the time of Marcion (second century) there are no reasons to place the others (one or all) still in the first century.
Never mind, you're talking about Luke.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?
Replies: 11
Views: 102

Re: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?

Are you assuming that Marcion was responsible for the authorship of the Gospel that he published?

If not, how are you dating *Ev?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?
Replies: 11
Views: 102

Re: What is the final legacy of Marcion at the end?

If I weren't already interested in the subject, you'd certainly help steer me away from it. That's a legacy.