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by ABuddhist
Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant
Replies: 92
Views: 10765

Re: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant

... in the real world of Biblical criticism. /// In the real word of Biblical criticism, probable beats both suspicion and possible every time. In the real world is the benefit of the doubt consistently extended to the truthfulness and integrity of the church industry? This is not a real world obse...
by ABuddhist
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant
Replies: 92
Views: 10765

Re: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant

If you allow the mythicists, (i.e. atheists) to dismiss all none Biblical references to Jesus as fraud or interpolations without probable cause, the mythicists will always win. The truth matters not, only promoting their ideology, nay, their new world religion. Surely this attitude of regarding any...
by ABuddhist
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant
Replies: 92
Views: 10765

Re: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant

If you allow the mythicists, (i.e. atheists) to dismiss all none Biblical references to Jesus as fraud or interpolations without probable cause, the mythicists will always win. Ironically, your view can be summarized as "if you ignore all evidence that mythicists and athiests are not always th...
by ABuddhist
Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant
Replies: 92
Views: 10765

Re: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant

If you allow the mythicists, (i.e. atheists) to dismiss all none Biblical references to Jesus as fraud or interpolations without probable cause, the mythicists will always win. Ironically, your view can be summarized as "if you ignore all evidence that mythicists and athiests are not always th...
by ABuddhist
Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant
Replies: 92
Views: 10765

Re: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant

John T wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:52 pm You mythicists gotta get a new shtick because your TF canard stinks to high heaven.
If that be so, then why have nonmythicists such as Chris Hansen also accepted that the original Josephus had no reference to Jesus?
by ABuddhist
Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant
Replies: 92
Views: 10765

Re: Shameless Plug: History Valley: Did Josephus mention Jesus? Ken Olson vs James Valliant

The Sadducees did not believe in heaven, angels, or the resurrection. Jesus believed in all three. Mark 12:18-27 The passage which you quote only asserts that the Sadducees denied the resurrection, not that they denied angels or Heaven. Denying the resurrection was at 1 point acceptable in Judaism,...
by ABuddhist
Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's episode of blindness, and being caught up into Paradise
Replies: 44
Views: 5449

Re: Paul's episode of blindness, and being caught up into Paradise

gryan wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:47 am My reading of the nuances of Paul's accounts suggest to me that Cephas affirmed it as valid and James the Lord's brother rejected it as false.
Fascinating if true - and yet more support for my realization that Paul was not a typical early Christian.
by ABuddhist
Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What if Jesus was invented for purely aesthetic reasons
Replies: 19
Views: 1759

Re: What if Jesus was invented for purely aesthetic reasons

What if Jesus was -- not-- invented....? Described variously though. What basis would have your detailed rejection-front details? I would really appreciate a list of details about gospel figure of Jesus that find no possibility or likelihood of being sourced from the Jewish Scriptures. I note that ...
by ABuddhist
Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:33 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato’s Timaeus and the Biblical Creation Accounts [Gmirkin]
Replies: 220
Views: 39729

Re: Plato’s Timaeus and the Biblical Creation Accounts [Gmirkin]

Were you persuaded? To borrow from Mandy Rice-Davies: Well he would, wouldn't he? With all due respect, I was simply noting his counter-argument because your comment created the impression that Gmirkin had simply ignored Hecataeus of Abdera in laying out his theory. As for whether I found his argum...
by ABuddhist
Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:04 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato’s Timaeus and the Biblical Creation Accounts [Gmirkin]
Replies: 220
Views: 39729

Re: Plato’s Timaeus and the Biblical Creation Accounts [Gmirkin]

Hecataeus of Abdera wrote earlier than Gmirkin's proposed Alexandria composition time of c. 273-270: '....At the end of their laws there is even appended the statement: "These are the words that Moses heard from God and declares unto the Jews." Their lawgiver was careful also to [etc.]' A...