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by MrMacSon
Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Bar Kochba persecuted Christians?
Replies: 7
Views: 6562

Re: Why Bar Kochba persecuted Christians?

Here's an interesting take on what led to the Bar Kokhba Revolt - Hadrian When Publius Aelius Hadrianus, known to us as Hadrian, took the reigns of power in 117 CE, he inaugurated ― at least at first ― an atmosphere of tolerance. He even talked of allowing the Jews to rebuilt the Temple, a proposal ...
by MrMacSon
Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity
Replies: 16
Views: 12193

Re: Christ Myth vs Retrospective Historicity

^ How accurately can people of the mid 2nd century, as Melito seems to have been, portray dates and time-frames from over 100 years previously?

Might Melito have been reflecting on a 'philosophy' other than Jesus-based Christianity?
by MrMacSon
Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Paul the First to Assert that Jesus was Crucified?
Replies: 80
Views: 74256

Re: Was Paul the First to Assert that Jesus was Crucified?

I'm also intrgued by
2) Paul/Fake Paul, writing at a time when crucifixion was all the rage in Israel, smells anachronistic.
When do you think the Pauline texts were written?
by MrMacSon
Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Paul the First to Assert that Jesus was Crucified?
Replies: 80
Views: 74256

Re: Was Paul the First to Assert that Jesus was Crucified?

JW : Keeping this party going, most people, including Skeptics, don't realize that we have no record of anyone being crucified in Israel in the first half of the first century outside of the Gospel account. Brown confesses this in his classic The Death of the Messiah . The setting supports this as ...
by MrMacSon
Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the fabricated mythicist "Pauli"...
Replies: 7
Views: 5381

Re: On the fabricated mythicist "Pauli"...

perseusomega9 wrote:Well Price does date the gospels to the mid to late 2nd century; and there's the issue of dating Marcion by the claims of the heresiologists. If we go by Huller's Alias then we also have the issue that Marcion means those of Mark.
those what? dates?
by MrMacSon
Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
Replies: 139
Views: 106541

Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je

Some people don't like Carrier's application of them.
by MrMacSon
Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
Replies: 139
Views: 106541

Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je

I hope everyone does know that the definition of Euhemerism means complete diddly squat outside of anything but the definition of Euhemerism. That's just the way definitions are. They change nothing but our language for describing things. That being the case, it's strange how involved people are in...
by MrMacSon
Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
Replies: 139
Views: 106541

Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je

Well now, finally an admission from Carrier that he is seeking to use an ' adaptive ' version of Euhemerus. An adaptive version of Euhemerus which another poster on his blog has already labeled 'carrierization'... You're being highly disingenuous - Carrier refers to (i) 'theists euhemerizing their ...
by MrMacSon
Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: An Illustration for DCH (Two Powers and Marcionism)
Replies: 23
Views: 12926

Re: An Illustration for DCH (Two Powers and Marcionism)

Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:31 am Earlier in the book* [ Judith Lieu ] is highly skeptical of any reconstructions of Marcion's text and basically concludes that Tertullian and others didn't actually have any Marcionite texts in front of them when writing. * 'Marcion and the Making of a Heretic' As Stephan e...
by MrMacSon
Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus"
Replies: 139
Views: 106541

Re: My review of Richard Carrier's "On the Historicity of Je

Your mistaken No, I'm not. - that is the whole point of Euhemerus - the origin of the Olympian gods was earthly - whether you want to say that origin was legend or history. The theory of Euhemerus regarding the Olympian gods is that their origin was earthly. Yes, Euhemerus portrayed them as 'earthy...