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Would a bunch of subsistence level agrarian farmers and city dwelling peasants fathom anything at the level of a gnostic? If such myths have their root in poverty and despair it seems that the core of the myth would be likely to have a far more simple base. Only the wealthy would have the time, edu...

Evidently prof Vinzent is able to see the anti-Jewish use of the term "Son of Man" by Marcion, differently from Secret Alias: the 'son of man' locution is one of the key markers of Marcion's text - you only need to read Tertullian, how he criticises Marcion for it. Yet, he also gives Marci...

I have too much pride for the following post, that represents the better of the my personal research in the question, hence a new thread to point out it: I am sure that if Ben, Ulan or Stuart or Secret Alias are really smart people :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :cheers: , then they can only re...

The term is danielic but it serves to a typical marcionite anti-thesis: as my commentary of Luke 22 shows (note that I don't need interpolations in this example) the sinedrites - following Daniel - believe that the Son of Man is an exalted man (the man Jesus) and hence they identify him as the "...

Nothing about 'Son of Man' meaning the god was human as to say that "born by woman" doesn't imply prima facie a human birth. The term is danielic but is used in an anti-Jewish sense: the Son of Man is an exalted man in Enoch and Daniel. While in Marcion the Son of Man is a debased god .

Ulan, please read above the my post, where I assume the presence of “Son of Man” in Marcion as allegorical term to make confused the sinedrites. That is the only way I can accept the term for Marcion, otherwise I lean towards considering it an interpolation.

I am sure that if Ben, Ulan or Stuart or Secret Alias are really smart people :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :cheers: , then they can only recognize that there is “something of true” in what follows: Luke 22 what the sinedrites believe what Marcion means At daybreak the council of the elders of...

In Luke 22:66-71: At daybreak the council of the elders of the people, both the chief priests and the teachers of the law, met together, and Jesus was led before them. 67 “If you are the Messiah,” they said, “tell us.” Jesus answered, “If I tell you, you will not believe me, 68 and if I asked you, y...

All this doesn't change anything about the point that you basically throw away the only evidence we have in order to get to your conclusion. At that point, you are left with nothing. I have quoted Adamantius as evidence that there was a Catholic argument of the kind "Jesus is Son of Man theref...

Ben, there is really evidence clear and simple of the fact that Son of Man was used as anti-marcionite element. Please see the figure of idiot made by the marcionite Meghetius here: Ad. What then does it say of Christ who is the son of man? If he is the son of man, according to you he will not be yo...