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Cheers, Peter. You're comments help contextualize a number of things. I agree that Tertullian and Cyprian "are not interdependent as evidence", but I had assumed Cyprian might be more dependent on Tertullian by way of locality and chronology (Cyprian following Tertullian) As I had for the ...

side note: Richard Carrier's latest blog post - back to the euhemerism issue...... Euhemerization Means Doing What Euhemerus Did http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/8161 Thank you. Carrier clarifies this well well (cf. Wikipedia and other articles or discussion I've seen). I've cut and pas...

Thanks Peter Why are you "grouping" any of them? What does this grouping have to do with the epistemic foundation of investigation into ancient Christianity? Because the current information about the works attributed to those people suggests strong relationships within those groups, and it...

I don't "group" them because they have different authors . The works attributed to some, several, or all of that group are written by other un-named people? In their time or later? You can (temporarily) remove Eusebius from the picture entirely and work without him, if you're paranoid abo...

The names you could use for this approach include: Justin Martyr Irenaeus Clement of Alexandria Tertullian Origen Cyprian Eusebius These seven authors can provide, epistemically, the foundation of the investigation of ante-Nicene Christianity. They should be analyzed in conjunction with the documen...

There is all this information out there (i.e. Baarda's Flying Jesus from the Diatessaron etc) but it just sits there because it doesn't fit into our traditional assumptions. http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35117#p35117 I think that the place to start is here http://www.jstor.org/...

So to summarize this rather speculative investigation, I think Chrestos was a Greek translation of an underlying Aramaic terminology which in turn translated the Hebrew terminology for 'Apostle.' According to this premise by the time the Greek translation was made the concept of the sheliach became...

The question of Jesus' historicity has existed for centuries. If Jesus never existed, then neither did the twelve, nor Paul, nor Luke and Mark... and so on and so forth.... At what point in Christian history are we no longer dealing with "did this person really exist?", but rather with pr...

JoeWallack wrote: ... Origen shows no awareness of its existence [ie. existence of the LE of Mark 1]

Interesting. Thanks for this and other interesting points.

I've always played with the idea that Theodore of Byzantium (= Clement of Alexandria) and Victor (= Irenaeus). When Adv Haer keeps speaking about Jesus and Christ being treated as separate beings because of the Gospel of Mark he is betraying the doctrines of Theodotus. Interesting! Theodotus/Theodo...