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by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What's Wrong With Mainstream Scholarship
Replies: 11
Views: 20980

Re: What's Wrong With Mainstream Scholarship

"doctrinally vital notion that their founder [Marcion] lived" Doctrinally vital to whom? To those whose interpretation of a 2nd century Christianity depended on the Marcionites having had a gospel and the so-called Paulist epistles before orthodox Christianity developed their own canon. T...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
Replies: 59
Views: 114456

Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E

Since at least 1600 years ago, a Christian writer admitted Once again, balderdash! A third century Christian writer evinces Christian views in the third century. He cannot "admit" anything regarding a text written in the first century because he has no direct access to knowledge regarding...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
Replies: 59
Views: 114456

Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E

In Revelation the author always means Babylon when he says Babylon. Rome is of no particular interest to the author; Rome being only one of the many kingdoms corrupted by "the mother of the harlots and of the abominations of the earth.” Impossible and completely alien to any remotely accurate ...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
Replies: 59
Views: 114456

Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E

No, I'm thinking that the site of the former ziggurat, which is now a depression, was once a hill. Completely irrelevant. The ancient audience had access neither to your speculation about this site nor to the catalogue of archaeological mounds in a British encyclopedia. More to the point, as Bernar...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
Replies: 59
Views: 114456

Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E

Blood wrote:If there's one thing we can be sure about, it's that we cannot be sure about anything in Revelation.
Utter nonsense.
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What's Wrong With Mainstream Scholarship
Replies: 11
Views: 20980

Re: What's Wrong With Mainstream Scholarship

"doctrinally vital notion that their founder [Marcion] lived"

Doctrinally vital to whom?
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in Egypt
Replies: 59
Views: 114456

Re: What is going on in Revelation 11:8? Lord crucified in E

Blood wrote:... how many scholars ...
Scholars are irrelevant. Only evidence matters.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: the name "Paul"
Replies: 25
Views: 41187

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

I admit nothing without my lawyer present.

As to my earlier statement, it is plausible that a historical Paul was named Paul, not that I am certain about it.
by Peter Kirby
Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:31 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Sub-form name change...?
Replies: 2
Views: 8518

Re: Sub-form name change...?

But I was so fond of the anagram! ("General Religious Discussion")
by Peter Kirby
Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: the name "Paul"
Replies: 25
Views: 41187

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Is it true that Paulus is a previously unknown name ? Mea culpa. Please forgive me. I have found examples in Plutarch. Paul is not a previously unknown name. :tombstone: It appears in Plutarch as a Latin "gens" name; presumably as a regular name elsewhere, I am not sure. I made the mistak...