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"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God" There's good reason to question the assumption that prophecies like this should be taken literally, ie, literal human generations If people can see "the kingdom ...

Very clever, davidmartin. And there is information. Look in the first letter: Galatians. I found that what Paul took, was their written story, nothing more. All the rest comes from himself (now incredibly forged by the catholic church). Paul is the one who starts a religion (for which he needed the...

Not really Giuseppe When Paul says this, he is saying pay no attention to the earthly life of the man, nor his followers, nor their teachings regarding him Thus, he is taking a previous movement in a new direction, toward the cosmic Christ and his apostle (himself, of course) What the previous movem...

Are you saying the gospels were entirely written in the late 2nd century? From no earlier sources? There is a big problem with that, which is the gospels do not perfectly align with the beliefs of the late 2nd century For example, Mark and John have no birth story - which suits Marcionites and other...

This is one element the eventual Catholicism blended in from the heretical movements, that Jesus was also God, and equal part of the trinity. But itwas not the position of the early proto-Orthodox. that is an interesting question but it may be not that the proto-orthodox blended from the heretical ...

I'm ignoring Hakeem for the most part, i think differently and there isn't much common ground or any room for debate, it seems pointless to engage him

Hakeem's complaint against Thomas is unconvincing "He said to them, "Give the emperor what belongs to the emperor, give God what belongs to God, and give me what is mine." When a three part saying was a common form, a standard device in those days (i don't remember where i read that, ...

Cora, your conviction the catholic church, people like Irenaeus, made stuff up isn't really new It goes all the way back to the early days of theological study hundreds of years ago, when texts like 1 Peter and 2 Peter started being seen as pseudo-graphical and many on this forum think the gospels a...

There is a church father who complains of people calling him Chrestos instead of Christos Chrestos has the meaning of 'the good' The father says people who do this are uneducated silly people Maybe someone here knows who said this because i've forgotten so i can't quote the actual words. sorry. Then...

I grew up on star trek original and hated the remakes went to see the 2009 movie with some friends with 0 expectations but it turned out to be pretty good in fact when the credits rolled it was like a quasi-mystical silence of seeing something great then exactly 30 seconds later the first moan and p...