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6. Marcion incorporated a Danielic terminology which is used by Jesus in the third person for the most part 7. Jesus even goes so far as to refer to the 'Son of Man' in negative terms - i.e. a thief 8. the Son of Man is a just figure in Daniel but the heretics used Daniel to argue for two powers 9....

And Stuart and I proved somewhere in this forum that the famous militaristic saying of Jesus (“I bear a sword, not the peace”) is a proto-catholic anti-marcionite interpolation in Luke.

One of the responses would clearly be - the Son of Man is militaristic in Daniel but Jesus is not militaristic - nevertheless Jesus does reference the Son of Man consistently in the third person.] nowhere Jesus is described as militaristic in the Gospels if not in Matthew (often) and in Mark only a...

Would a bunch of subsistence level agrarian farmers and city dwelling peasants fathom anything at the level of a gnostic? If such myths have their root in poverty and despair it seems that the core of the myth would be likely to have a far more simple base. Only the wealthy would have the time, edu...

Evidently prof Vinzent is able to see the anti-Jewish use of the term "Son of Man" by Marcion, differently from Secret Alias: the 'son of man' locution is one of the key markers of Marcion's text - you only need to read Tertullian, how he criticises Marcion for it. Yet, he also gives Marci...

I have too much pride for the following post, that represents the better of the my personal research in the question, hence a new thread to point out it: I am sure that if Ben, Ulan or Stuart or Secret Alias are really smart people :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :cheers: , then they can only re...

The term is danielic but it serves to a typical marcionite anti-thesis: as my commentary of Luke 22 shows (note that I don't need interpolations in this example) the sinedrites - following Daniel - believe that the Son of Man is an exalted man (the man Jesus) and hence they identify him as the "...

Nothing about 'Son of Man' meaning the god was human as to say that "born by woman" doesn't imply prima facie a human birth. The term is danielic but is used in an anti-Jewish sense: the Son of Man is an exalted man in Enoch and Daniel. While in Marcion the Son of Man is a debased god .

Ulan, please read above the my post, where I assume the presence of “Son of Man” in Marcion as allegorical term to make confused the sinedrites. That is the only way I can accept the term for Marcion, otherwise I lean towards considering it an interpolation.

I am sure that if Ben, Ulan or Stuart or Secret Alias are really smart people :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :cheers: , then they can only recognize that there is “something of true” in what follows: Luke 22 what the sinedrites believe what Marcion means At daybreak the council of the elders of...