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- Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:13 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Luke & Marcion [Lk 22:42,44]
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3997
Re: Luke & Marcion [Lk 22:42,44]
These verses (Lk 22:42,44) are (certainly?) not in Marcion but are referenced by Justin (Dial 103.8) as being in the memoirs. If the Dialogue is circa 160 I'm not sure this helps much in terms of determining priority between Marcion and Luke, but it at least shows Justin is familiar with Lucan non-...
- Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:28 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A Critical Reconstruction of the Marcionite Gospel (Part 1)
- Replies: 32
- Views: 12742
Re: A Critical Reconstruction of the Marcionite Gospel (Part
You are really stuck on monarchist and monotheist. That is not what I said. The simplicity is when you recognize the anti-Marcionite church fathers are from a later era in which the orthodox camp has settled on a monotheist position, and are projecting the multiplicity of Gods upon the heretics as a...
- Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A Critical Reconstruction of the Marcionite Gospel (Part 1)
- Replies: 32
- Views: 12742
Re: A Critical Reconstruction of the Marcionite Gospel (Part
a division [into] two distinct camps, over this very issue of the Jewish God and the unknown supreme God. Is it a divide between two camps allied to one of two gods or is the division more sophisticated. For instance the unquestioned assumption among traditional scholars is that Jews were monotheis...
- Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:35 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Marcion and the Use of Diminutives With Saint Names
- Replies: 46
- Views: 17562
Re: Marcion and the Use of Diminutives With Saint Names
Apparently the name 'Luke' is a result of hypocorism: The same is true for Saint Luke, whose name is a new coinage formed with the Greek hypocoristic suffix-άς from the the common Latin praenomen Lucius. Good observation. I have wondered about this name, as Lucius was a 2nd generation Marcionite bi...
- Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: A Critical Reconstruction of the Marcionite Gospel (Part 1)
- Replies: 32
- Views: 12742
Re: A Critical Reconstruction of the Marcionite Gospel (Part
At best it can be said that in Adversus Marcionem: 1. the most consistent focus of the treatise is to attack the Marcionites for diverging from monarchia through their veneration of another god superior than the Creator 2. the Jews are assumed to have always venerated only one God; the Marcionite i...
- Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:12 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Revelation 13
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4364
Re: Revelation 13
2nd century. The part about the ten Kings and having to wait a bit longer pushes the final layer to the reign of Severus.
Your projecting far out of context for the chapter to place it in the 4th century. The proximity of events in this chapter are 1st century.
Your projecting far out of context for the chapter to place it in the 4th century. The proximity of events in this chapter are 1st century.
- Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:06 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Revelation 13
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4364
Re: Revelation 13
This is an utterly silly thread that should be deleted. But since I am hitting writers block on an article I am doing and bored, I'll inject a minor bit of seriousness into the understanding of chapter 13 of Revelation. First is "the Mark". In Revelation 13:17 we are told "... no one ...
- Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Double Tradition & Marcion
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2008
Re: Double Tradition & Marcion
There is as yet no consensus. Only very recently has the concept of Marcionite Priority actually been examined in depth as a possibility requiring in depth examination of the consequences with regard to the Synoptic and indeed all the Gospel development. Markus Vinzent, King's College London, is som...
- Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:54 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: myths and endless genealogies
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6976
Re: myths and endless genealogies
Forget Stephen Huller's fixation on Aramaic and Hebrew root words and supposed translations errors into Greek for everything in and near to Christianity. It's his personal cracked theory. Just set it aside, as it' is irrelevant to issue at hand anyway - it would be nice if he admitted it was persona...
- Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:46 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Memoirs of the Apostles in Justin's Trypho Dialogue
- Replies: 82
- Views: 39484
Re: Memoirs of the Apostles in Justin's Trypho Dialogue
The reason I posted the entire block in English was to discuss it in terms of the Marcionite theology. But before I do that a quick comment on the abrupt ending. This seems to be a pattern in the Marcionite collection. As soon as the final point is made, Paul signs out with a form of "Grace be ...