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by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 11:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis
Replies: 136
Views: 6837

Re: Markan Marcion: A Contrarian Synopsis

And here are those texts. (This doesn't make any real effort to distinguish what might be in the Gospel.) Mark Luke Matthew Thomas 3.1 In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judea,... 1:21 And they went into Capernaum; and immediately on the sabbath ...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 2:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Chrestians/Christians?
Replies: 217
Views: 9837797

Re: Chrestians/Christians? Xristos and Xrhstos in NT and LXX

And then we have the marvellous nomen sacrum for XS in the LXX that is meant to convey the sense of 'anointed' and if on post with the Hebrew for Messiah, going by the MT - IIUC https://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=151684#p151684 Καὶ ὁ ἱερεὺς ὁ μέγας ἀπὸ τῶν ἀδελφῶν αὐτοῦ, τοῦ ἐπικεχυμέν...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 7:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion
Replies: 40
Views: 1886

Re: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion

How many gazillion other examples of "two powers" exist around that time? Some please that involve powers of mercy and justice and aren't centrally fixated on the Bible. This is fucking stupid. It's telling enough that you still use the word Bible. How are mercy and justice not universal ...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 7:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion
Replies: 40
Views: 1886

Re: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion

Why do I want this to be the case? Because my mother is Jewish? Really? How many Jews want Hitler to be Jewish because they are Jewish? But here goes anyway. 1. Marcion's two powers = Philo's two powers. Philo was the face of Judaism in Alexandria. Really? How exactly is that the case? How many gaz...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 5:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion
Replies: 40
Views: 1886

Re: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion

As Marcion is Jewish (or Marcionism derives from Jewish thought) it would be surprising that the Devil would have a prominent role in the religion. I know that you want need that to be the case, but the very opposite is true Can you provide me with 3 main "Jewish" points in Marcion / Marc...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 5:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Ultimate Question With Patristic Commentary on the Marcionite Canon
Replies: 13
Views: 810

Re: The Ultimate Question With Patristic Commentary on the Marcionite Canon

Was Marcion's Evangelion violently suppressed and quite intentionally eradicated? If so, by Tertullian's time it may no longer have been available. That is an option and a likely possibility - yet the "Marcion-bashing" continues well into 400 CE and it seems unlikely that they couldn't ha...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 5:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Klinghardt on ‘abolishing the Law & Prophets’
Replies: 88
Views: 6973

Re: Klinghardt on ‘abolishing the Law & Prophets’

Could you please clarify the two sections that I highlighted? I'm confused :confusedsmiley: Ok but first of all, the second bit of highlighted text was NOT WRITTEN BY ME. I’ll get back to you about the rest. Check, you are right. I can only blame my own fat fingers for that then, apologies - case c...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 5:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion
Replies: 40
Views: 1886

Re: The Demiurge or Evil Creator God in the Evangelion

Are there texts in any of the major recent reconstructions of the Evangelion (BeDuhn, Roth, Klinghardt) that clearly distinguish the Father to whom Jesus refers from the God of Israel of the Hebrew Bible/Jewish Scriptures/Old Testament, or distinguish Jesus' Father from the creator of the material ...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 2:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Chrestians/Christians?
Replies: 217
Views: 9837797

Re: Chrestians/Christians? Xristos and Xrhstos in NT and LXX

But love your enemies, do good [to them] , and lend [to them] , expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Or do you disregard the riches of His kindness , tolerance, and patience, not realizing th...
by mlinssen
Tue May 30, 2023 2:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Klinghardt on ‘abolishing the Law & Prophets’
Replies: 88
Views: 6973

Re: Klinghardt on ‘abolishing the Law & Prophets’

did *Ev positively affirm, or deny, or merely evoke, the idea of Jesus abolishing the Law? does the Tertullian/Harnack consensus image of “Marcion” as enemy of Judaism and the Law hold water against the evidence of 23:2? does the Tertullian/Harnack consensus image of “Marcion” as “conservative” edi...