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I am asking you for the source of your claim. How is this not clear? You said that Marcion and/or the Marcionites treated these verses in a certain way, and I am asking you for the source of this knowledge of yours. If all you have is that "according to Marcion, Jesus was not known by any bein...

It is as I thought. I am going to need a reference from you for the specific Marcionite interpretation of these incidents. are you asking so to question my knowledge or to question the same view that, according to Marcion, Jesus was not known by any being of this world? I prefer the former because ...

Then maybe I am not understanding what you are saying. Here is your statement again: My point is only that, according to the marcionite exegesis of these similar words in GMarcion, the demons didn't recognize Jesus since they believed him as the Jewish Messiah.... Can you perhaps rephrase this? if ...

What is the reference for this Marcionite exegesis of the similar words in the Marcionite gospel? I will need to see the text you are drawing from before commenting further. I am sorry, but it is too much evident that Marcion interpreted in that way the 'recognition' by demons. Do you know what the...

I have no idea what you are talking about, as usual. The demons literally recognize Jesus as the son of the "most high God" in, for example, Mark 5.7. If you assume that the 'most high God' is the god of the Jews, then you have all the reasons of this world. My point is only that, accordi...

the gospels definitely support A. Only if we admit that the Earliest Gospel assumed that Jesus was the Son of YHWH , because otherwise even the demons don't recognize that Jesus is the son of a higher god (as per GMarcion). At any rate, the criterion by me used to classify the possible options in A...

. He was doing miracles, so had some sort of other worldly origin, but not necessarily with good intentions. my point is that the earliest evidence doesn't assume that the demons killed Jesus because they saw someone who was doing miracles. They killed him because a very weak (=without miracles) um...

I agree that there is nothing about Jerusalem or other Gospel items in there. I mean that the earlier version is the version where Jesus is killed by demons without the description of the particular reason the demons kill him (other than his being alien in their world). So this version: 13. ... whe...

Mark 1:9 originally read: "And it happened in those days, that Jesus the Nazarene came from Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan." So, if my hypothesis is correct, Jesus was "separated" (meaning of 'Nazarene' in this point) from the his family even before he was posse...

Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:24 am Did any ancient Christian or Jewish exegete take note of this correspondence?

From Gen 49:16? I don't know. Surely Joseph was seen as a type of Jesus.