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by rgprice
Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Context for understanding the Ransom Theory
Replies: 30
Views: 413

Re: Context for understanding the Ransom Theory

Its difficult to parse “My God, my God, why did you abandon me?” too closely, since its part of a literary reference to Psalm 22, which is about how the sufferer will cause everyone in the world to worship God. So clearly that is the goal of the writer is to make a reference to this concept.
by rgprice
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...
Replies: 13
Views: 206

Re: The Mark as fiction and Matthew and Luke misunderstanding that proposal...

Here is a somewhat simple example: Mark 1: 29 As soon as they left the synagogue, they entered the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John. 30 Now Simon’s mother-in-law was in bed with a fever, and they told him about her at once. 31 He came and took her by the hand and lifted her up. Then th...
by rgprice
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Irenaeus Says the Carpocratians Referred to Jesus as a "Naked Man" (Nude Hominem)
Replies: 10
Views: 258

Re: Irenaeus Says the Carpocratians Referred to Jesus as a "Naked Man" (Nude Hominem)

I'm still constantly blow away by the depth of the argumentation over writings . Every argument about the nature of Jesus that is known to exist is purely about parsing the details of various writings, often either by assuming the complete truth of a given writing or the complete falsehood of a give...
by rgprice
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
Replies: 5
Views: 193

Re: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31

To me, it looks like 2 Cor 3 is using Jeremiah here. I'm not fully convinced. But assuming Paul was influenced by Jeremiah here, what does this imply? How was Pauling using Jeremiah? Is Paul's new covenant supposed to be what is described in Jeremiah? Doesn't seem to align. Does this indicate that ...
by rgprice
Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31
Replies: 5
Views: 193

The "new covenant" in 2 Cor 3 and Jeremiah 31

I found this quite interesting, but not sure what to make of it: Jeremiah 31:27 The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of humans and the seed of animals. 28 And just as I have watched over them to pluck up and break down, t...
by rgprice
Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How the Gospels got their attributions...
Replies: 10
Views: 340

Re: How the Gospels got their attributions...

one argument for a proto john is if john were actually using a source for some of it's material and adding a narrative John reminds me of the way a few gnostic texts do this So this would be the first person Jesus stuff of an older revelation or treatise. maybe the prologue John seems quite suited ...
by rgprice
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My recreation of the opening of the First Gospel
Replies: 53
Views: 2147

Re: My recreation of the opening of the First Gospel

It only make sense that v14 is referring to what just happened in v12-13. The way this is traditionally read, v14 comes out of nowhere and is unexplained until Mark 6. This is accepted because Mark is read after Matthew, but this makes no sense on Markan priority, where anyone reading this would ha...
by rgprice
Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: My recreation of the opening of the First Gospel
Replies: 53
Views: 2147

Re: My recreation of the opening of the First Gospel

Getting back to the OP. Once we accept that it was John who was driven into the wilderness and "delivered to Satan", we can then see that in this story both John and Jesus are "delivered to Satan". The story opens with the delivering of John to Satan and closes with the with deli...
by rgprice
Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Important milestones in biblical scholarship
Replies: 25
Views: 623

Re: Important milestones in biblical scholarship

Thanks for the info thus far. I figured someone would call me out for not mentioning Arthur Drew's The Christ Myth :p Anyway, what I've gleaned is: Catholic priest Lorenzo Valla published a treaties exposing the Donation of Constantine as a forgery in 1440. Exposure of this forgery contributed signi...