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by Giuseppe
Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus
Replies: 12
Views: 5229

Re: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus

In the worst case scenario Christianity is wholly antinomian... “In the worst case”... ...in comparison to what ? Is there an objective morality that commands us to reject a theory in comparison to another, when we are dealing about historical reconstructions? if the discourse here is so strongly p...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus
Replies: 12
Views: 5229

Re: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus

And remember that all the early sources identify Jesus = the anthropomorphic god of the Pentateuch. So it's not hard to see that the Jews not recognizing Jesus as their god clearly has something to do with the proto-rabbinic denial that god had a shape, that god had a form, that god had a 'face' (=...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus
Replies: 12
Views: 5229

Re: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus

Jesus is always God Well, I disagree. Jesus is “ quasi deo” , not “deo”. Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. I see also that you seem to be opposed to the only idea that the expiatory sacrifice found his origin in ancestral times and assumed t...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus
Replies: 12
Views: 5229

Re: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus

Seen from this POV, the same Marcionite conception of a Jesus crucified only as hologram (docetism) is decisively more indebted to later historicist degeneration than the previous conception of Paul about the Son as man really crucified. Therefore, the docetism and the identification of Jesus as 'on...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus
Replies: 12
Views: 5229

About an acute observation of Arthur Drews about the “humanity” of the pauline Jesus

Arthur Drews did this acute observation: It was not unusual among the heathen peoples for a man to be sacrificed, in the place of the Deity, as a symbolical representative; although already at the time of Paul it was the custom to represent the self-sacrificing God only by an effigy, instead of a re...
by Giuseppe
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Hegesippus break the equation "James brother of Lord = Son of Zebedee"?
Replies: 11
Views: 18398

Did Hegesippus break the equation "James brother of Lord = Son of Zebedee"?

I have read and reviewed positively the book of R.G.Price, https://www.amazon.com/Deciphering-Gospels-Proves-Jesus-Existed/dp/1483487830/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1536524167&sr=1-1&keywords=r+g+price In particular, I like the his proposed interpretation of Gal 1:19: James brothe...
by Giuseppe
Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A speculative reconstruction of proto-Mark's final
Replies: 0
Views: 4014

A speculative reconstruction of proto-Mark's final

I put in red the interpolations. Mark Commentary: 43 Just as he was speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, appeared. With him was a crowd armed with swords and clubs, sent from the chief priests, the teachers of the law, and the elders. 44 Now the betrayer had arranged a signal with them: “The one I ki...
by Giuseppe
Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence that 1 Clement is forgery
Replies: 13
Views: 9835

Re: Evidence that 1 Clement is forgery

Ben C. Smith wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:57 amEnjoy your fantasy.
...the very thing I had been eager to do all along (Gal 2:10).
by Giuseppe
Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence that 1 Clement is forgery
Replies: 13
Views: 9835

Re: Evidence that 1 Clement is forgery

My view: Paul says that someone called James, Peter and John as Pillars. He doesn't like the implication of this label: to honour the three men. And his justification is that no man has to be honoured if not by God. How could a true follower of Paul honour the man Paul even if he knew that Paul didn...
by Giuseppe
Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence that 1 Clement is forgery
Replies: 13
Views: 9835

Re: Evidence that 1 Clement is forgery

But no way would that stop an admirer of Paul from calling him a pillar, should the mood strike. I am not denying that Clement was, in the his own way, an 'admirer' of Paul (to be sure, I woul call him a 'co-opter' of Paul). I am saying that an 'admirer' who betrayes the thought itself of Paul (und...