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by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 650

Re: Marcion saute

JarekS wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:30 am the same team compiled both the *Ev and the Synoptic Gospels.
Some idea about their intention in doing so?
by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23
Replies: 31
Views: 521

Re: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23

3) Finally, the argument presumes that the saying of Jesus in Luke 4.23, 'Physician, heal yourself; what we have heard you did at Capernaum, do here also in your own country' was present in the Evangelion, but only the 'physician heal yourself' part is positively attested to be there even assuming ...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion saute
Replies: 34
Views: 650

Re: Marcion saute

There was no conflict during Marcion's lifetime. The canonical Gospels are not anti-Marcian. They were created as a consequence of the success of the first one. I agree with the general idea. Only, I think that sometimes and rarely , the hand of Marcion (and enemies of Marcion) is evident: for exam...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23
Replies: 31
Views: 521

Re: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23

3) Finally, the argument presumes that the saying of Jesus in Luke 4.23, 'Physician, heal yourself; what we have heard you did at Capernaum, do here also in your own country' was present in the Evangelion, but only the 'physician heal yourself' part is positively attested to be there even assuming ...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A figure falling dead from the sky in Revelation 1:7 implies a crucifixion in outer space
Replies: 11
Views: 577

Re: A figure falling dead from the sky in Revelation 1:7 implies a crucifixion in outer space

Have you read the previous comment ? You are absolutely correct that Zechariah 12:10-14 is crucially important here. It’s about mourning over the dead (whomever that includes). That’s a big part of my fuller argument that I sent you privately. This passage itself never implies the figure uses the sw...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A figure falling dead from the sky in Revelation 1:7 implies a crucifixion in outer space
Replies: 11
Views: 577

Re: A figure falling dead from the sky in Revelation 1:7 implies a crucifixion in outer space

The same author continues: The parallel to Rev 1:7 in Matthew 23:30 is misleading and should not be allowed to limit or overly influence how we are read Revelation. We might instead consider if Rev 1:7 means to depict an angel falling out of the sky after being killed by other powers there . This wo...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Boy who cried wolf and Christian texts and history
Replies: 5
Views: 152

Re: Boy who cried wolf and Christian texts and history

I have given up to consider decisive the argument based on the ignorance in geography by the Gentile readers of Luke, but in whiletime I am going to raise new and stronger arguments that hardly can be ignored.
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23
Replies: 31
Views: 521

Re: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23

and got feedback from Josen Rael and others. "Josen Rael" is me. I do not think Klinghardt's understanding that 4.31 in the Evangelion probably refers to Jesus 'coming down' to Capernaum from Jerusalem or the hills around the Sea of Galilee can be maintained in light of the absence of an ...
by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23
Replies: 31
Views: 521

Re: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23

I see with satisfaction that the "Argument à la Robert De Niro" has been made independently from me by Klinghardt by this little remark:

'That the teachings of 4,15 also include healings and miraculous signs is not immediately obvious.

by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: “You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23
Replies: 31
Views: 521

“You got nothing. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge!”: in Canonical Luke Jesus merely spoke BEFORE 4:23

In addition to this already exhaustive list , I think that this further point is decisive: 5) Luke 4:14-15 doesn't talk about miraculous actions of Jesus, but only about a surprising teaching . 14 Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about him spread through the whole count...