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by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No “Son of Man” in Marcion
Replies: 33
Views: 25067

Re: No “Son of Man” in Marcion

This is incorrect. While I agree in exegesis the Marcionites did not associate Jesus with the Daniel's "son of man", there is no question that the phrase was present in multiple places in the Marcionite Gospel: What you and Ben seem to not understand is that the Son of Man is a so clear r...
by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the didachist an enemy of Paul's crucified Jesus?
Replies: 33
Views: 20312

Re: Was the didachist an enemy of Paul's crucified Jesus?

I don't like to inquiry under the points 1 and 2, frankly. The point 3 remains only a possibility. I am interested about the point 4 . The trial of Jesus before the sinedrites seems really in my eyes the process by which the divine Son ascends to heaven by giving the right passwords to the doorkeepe...
by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the didachist an enemy of Paul's crucified Jesus?
Replies: 33
Views: 20312

Re: Was the didachist an enemy of Paul's crucified Jesus?

Seen from this POV, then " the one who leads the world astray will appear as a “son of God” and will work signs and wonders, and the earth will be given into his hands, and he will do godless things which have never been done since the beginning of time." is already the cursed by God as th...
by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the didachist an enemy of Paul's crucified Jesus?
Replies: 33
Views: 20312

Was the didachist an enemy of Paul's crucified Jesus?

From Didache: 16:4 And at that time the one who leads the world astray will appear as a “son of God” and will work signs and wonders, and the earth will be given into his hands, and he will do godless things which have never been done since the beginning of time. 16:5 Then human creation will pass i...
by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Books and letters of Paul.
Replies: 20
Views: 19384

Re: Books and letters of Paul.

Marcion accepted that the 12 were apostles before Paul: Who loves Paul but is somewhere on the spectrum between hostile and ambivalent towards the Jerusalem Apostles? In my mind, the answer could not be more obvious: it was the Marcionites! https://timsteppingout.wordpress.com/2018/09/13/criterion-o...
by Giuseppe
Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No “Son of Man” in Marcion
Replies: 33
Views: 25067

Re: No “Son of Man” in Marcion

This allows me to decipher the hidden meaning of the following verse: Going a little farther, he fell to the ground and prayed that if possible the hour might pass from him. 36“ Abba , Father,” he said, “everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will.” ...
by Giuseppe
Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: No “Son of Man” in Marcion
Replies: 33
Views: 25067

No “Son of Man” in Marcion

So Tertullian: When led before the council, He is asked whether He is the Christ.(12) Of what Christ could the Jews have inquired(13) but their own? Why, therefore, did He not, even at that moment, declare to them the rival (Christ)? You reply, I n order that He might be able to suffer . In other wo...
by Giuseppe
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist
Replies: 12
Views: 28064

Re: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist

rgprice wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:28 am I don't think GMark was either Separationist or Adoptionist. I think the writer of Mark knew that Jesus wasn't real and was just writing a fictional story. There was no intention of establishing doctrine.
Very thanks for the satisfactory answer! :cheers: I will think about it more.
by Giuseppe
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Political Separationism in Mark?
Replies: 0
Views: 5319

Political Separationism in Mark?

I have read with enthusiasm the book of RG Price, Deciphering the Gospels: Proves Jesus Never Existed (my positive review here ) and only a thing I found missing: how the author can explain the separationism in Mark along the lines of the his interpretation of Mark as political fiction. I think that...
by Giuseppe
Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus and other saviors/heroes
Replies: 27
Views: 29784

Re: Jesus and other saviors/heroes

Every aspect of Jesus can clearly and definitively be traced to Jewish sources. RG Price, I would like an answer from you about this question about Mark (basically, the only thing who I found missing in your book): http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4536 Thanks for any answer.