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by Jax
Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Replies: 241
Views: 12801

Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus

It seems that Richard Carrier has removed this comment: RICHARD CARRIER AUGUST 12, 2021, 3:04 PM Thank you. Alas, no further responses to that rambling crank are necessary. here A comment in answer to this: GIUSEPPE AUGUST 12, 2021, 1:05 AM If of interest, Doudna’s new reply to your objections may ...
by Jax
Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Replies: 241
Views: 12801

Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus

I had such fun with the Aretases, that I posted about the puzzle on the blog. https://uncertaintist.wordpress.com/2021/08/13/the-aretas-puzzle/ The basic findings presented there are: (1) The wide-spread deep confidence that Aretas IV is Paul's King Aretas owes much to the more general confidence i...
by Jax
Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2 Corinthians 11:32 —- Why Aretas?
Replies: 54
Views: 2495

Re: 2 Corinthians 11:32 —- Why Aretas?

GakuseiDon wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:31 pm
Jax wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:06 am GakuseiDon, Please feel free to comment in the above thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3487 so we don't siderail this thread too much.
No worries. I'll have a read through the other thread and if I comment I'll do so over there. Thanks Jax.
:cheers:
by Jax
Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2 Corinthians 11:32 —- Why Aretas?
Replies: 54
Views: 2495

Re: 2 Corinthians 11:32 —- Why Aretas?

GakuseiDon, Please feel free to comment in the above thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3487 so we don't siderail this thread too much.

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by Jax
Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2 Corinthians 11:32 —- Why Aretas?
Replies: 54
Views: 2495

Re: Aretas WHO? --- Yawn.

While I feel that there is no way, just using the letters alone, to prove that Paul was writing in the 1st century BCE or even the 1st century CE, I have come to the conclusion that a Paul being a participant in the civil and other wars of the 1st century BCE to at least be a workable possibility. ...
by Jax
Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2 Corinthians 11:32 —- Why Aretas?
Replies: 54
Views: 2495

Re: Aretas WHO? --- Yawn.

The point of the daring basket escape story was “I am important”. The short passage is contained in the much longer brag-fest in which Paul makes all kinds of claims in his own support --- claims to show how he is better than the Jewish missionaries that the Corinthians liked better than Paul. Paul...
by Jax
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 2 Corinthians 11:32 —- Why Aretas?
Replies: 54
Views: 2495

Re: Aretas WHO? --- Yawn.

The point of the daring basket escape story was “I am important”. The short passage is contained in the much longer brag-fest in which Paul makes all kinds of claims in his own support --- claims to show how he is better than the Jewish missionaries that the Corinthians liked better than Paul. Paul...
by Jax
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Replies: 241
Views: 12801

Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus

So far I have been reluctant to assign historical personalities to figures like Paul or ToR etc. even though there is reference in the letters to a household of Aristobulus and an Herodion, my fellow Jew. A Paul of education seems indicated in the letters which would support the idea that he comes ...
by Jax
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Replies: 241
Views: 12801

Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus

So far I have been reluctant to assign historical personalities to figures like Paul or ToR etc. even though there is reference in the letters to a household of Aristobulus and an Herodion, my fellow Jew. A Paul of education seems indicated in the letters which would support the idea that he comes f...
by Jax
Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus
Replies: 241
Views: 12801

Re: Carrier, Aretas and Damascus

The ToR cult - so that's one reason you want a historical Paul back in the lst century b.c. No evidence that his figure from the DSS was a historical figure. That this figure was based on a historical figure is possible of course. (similar to a historical figure being reflected in the gospel JC cru...