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Richard Carrier insists that Rev 13:8 (and GPhilip 9) is not evidence of a Jesus crucified before the creation of the world. He says: Additionally, Jesus’s death canceled the rule of Satan (and thus death itself) over the sublunar world. It makes no sense that Jesus would have achieved that thousand...

Very interesting, thanks. I read from the preview of the book: Marcion organized his group of followers of Christ as a decidedly non-Jewish entity. He was perhaps not the first to endertake such a project, but he was certaintly the first to give it a durable form, which in this case proved capable o...

I cannot tell whether or not you are joking here. Obviously it is the content of Jesus' prayer in the gospel of Nicodemus to which Satan is reacting. "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death," is not prima facie a very divine thing to say. Not only the content. The solitude of J...

I remember en passant that a Jesus who prayes alone in Gethsemani is, according to GNicodemus, just the Jesus who persuades definitely Satan about the mere humanity of Jesus and moves him to kill Jesus not knowing who he really is. For I know that he is a man, and I heard him also saying, My soul is...

So, a Jesus who prayes alone is "low" christologically speaking. So, a Jesus who prayes in the middle of the disciples is "high" christologically speaking. That makes no sense to me. I am saying that a Jesus who prayes alone is "low" christologically as he is separated...

I can read and understand what Robert M. Price is saying, but I honestly have no idea what your point is, nor how it connects with what Price is saying. you have pointed out the fact that only John 11, in the passages quoted by me above, is the only exception where a Gospel Jesus isn 't praying alo...

Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:02 pm Or do you believe that what Irenaeus, Tertullian, Adamantus and Epiphanius report about his texts?

Yeah. Forgive me, but the idea that some Christians hated the creator god has always intrigued and persuaded me as one of the most true and authentic voices of that literature.

Well, not always . Your list even included an instance from John 11 in which he is deliberately praying surrounded by people. Also, blessing the bread is a form of prayer. But he does have a habit in the gospels of going off by himself to pray. It's not a coincidence that the Gospel of John, one of...

In the epistles, when the 500 Brothers pray to Jesus, he appeared to them. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time , most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. When Jesus prayes in the Gospels, he is always alone to pray: Luk...

If Christ was with the 12 for 40 days after the death, then this interval is not more to be considered an 'apparition' than it can be considered an entire 'life on the earth'. So if the evidence of resurrection is only the apparitions listed in 1 Cor 15:5 et seq. , then why even after the death, and...