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Does Jones argue for this sense for Herodion in Rom. 16:11?

Charles Wilson wrote: "AHM Jones, Herods of Judaea, tells of the Greek Court ordered in the following manner: "Friends", "Honored Friends", "Guards of the Realm" and the highest ranking, "Kinsmen". Herod ordered his Court by this Classification System (Jo...

Regarding the identity of Herodion and whether he was Paul's relative or fellow countryman, Holland writes, "The greeting gives little away about Herodion. Indeed, the virtual silence supports the view that he was a blood relative as there seems to be little point in Paul isolating one of has m...

Bird talks about Aristobulus, Herodion, Narcissus and their possible connection to the Herodian dynasty here (though he sees Herodion as a Herodian slave rather than as Aristobulus's son): https://books.google.com/books?id=pU0VCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA29-IA4&dq=herodion+little+herod+paul&hl=en&...

And for what it's worth, Acts 13:1 mentions a Herodian in the Antioch Church: "Now there were at Antioch, in the church that was there, prophets and teachers: Barnabas, and Simeon who was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.&q...

Then there are Paul's greetings to Aristobulus, "my kinsman Herodion" and Narcissus in Rom. 16:10-11: "Greet those who belong to the household of Aristobulus. Greet my kinsman Herodion. Greet those in the Lord who belong to the family of Narcissus." http://biblehub.com/romans/16-...

And while there is discussion on whether or not the Epaphroditus in Paul was also Nero's secretary and Josephus' patron, Mason sees the similarity between the latter and Paul's companion on pg. 191 of Josephus and the New Testament, "This man [Josephus' patron] was not part of the old Roman ari...

Isayre wrote: "How about the Roman government? Could it have fabricated the NT Jesus stories? Is Paul a Herodion?" This is something Eisenman proposes as part of his larger theory of Christian origins that I think makes sense of some things in Paul's letters. I'm getting too old to sort th...

Maryhelena wrote: "Obviously, the NT writings are not simply the product of Philo and Josephus - but these two prominent figures had the ability to provide a foundation for the early christian movement. Others, perhaps a school of writers, would be involved with the development of the NT materi...

I need to catch up on the thread but I noticed this morning that Paul mentions Hosea by name in Rom. 9:5 ("As he says in Hosea: 'I will call them 'my people' who are not my people; and I will call her 'my loved one' who is not my loved one"), and I doubled checked page 146 in the book I li...