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GDon, I am expecting your observation about my argument based on PLT/Pilate, against the historicity of the "suffered under Pontius Pilate" of the Apostolic Creed. I am curious about how your answer differs from SamuelGoranson's answer , if differs at all. I'm sorry, I just don't know eno...

maryhelena wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:00 am

GakuseiDon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:21 am I don't think that Pilate, wishing to content the multitude, delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified.

Your reading the mind of Pilate..... and by doing so removing guilt from the Romans and placing it upon the Jews.....

I literally have no idea what you mean, I'm sorry.

Again, would you say a historical inquiry into the origins of Nazism is helping Nazism to evolve? Sure, it certainly happened in the past. No reason it can't happen today. In the early 20th Century, people like Alfred Rosenberg tied Nazism into ideas about the history of "the Aryan race"....

It's more about the myth-making that goes on in trying to derive meaning from the early texts. . . . and yourself are following in the traditions of Paul, the gnostics and the early apologists in looking through the Old Testament and the Gospels in order to make sense of early Christian ideas. I am...

Mark 15:15 :And Pilate, wishing to content the multitude................... delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified. If one uphold a 'literal representation of a statement' - in this case upholding the idea that a historical Jesus messiah figure was crucified under Pilate - then ...

If you assume that it is not a coincidence But is it an unexpected coincidence? How do you quantify the level of unexpectedness? That's the question I'd like to see you try to answer, as the next level of evidence to the claim. the logical implication would be that the choice of Pilate as killer of...

'Historicist' verse 'literalist' regarding the gospel Jesus story is an attempt to have ones cake and eat it. 'Literalist' is not confined only to those who take the gospel story at full strength. If one take out of the gospel Jesus story the idea that a historical Jesus messiah figure was crucifie...

Giuseppe, it's an interesting point, but I have no knowledge of Hebrew or gMark's use of Hebrew in his Greek composition, so I don't know how much of a coincidence it is for "PLT" appearing in both "Pilate" and "releases". That analysis of "how likely"/"h...

Even when Pilate releases (PLT) Barabbas before the Pesach just as Aaron releases (PLT) the evil goat in the wilderness during Hayom Kippur? Too much divine coincidence, here... I agree. That Pilate existed doesn't mean that the Gospel stories about Pilate actually happened. Really? Do you agree th...

Only two observations: In the specific case of "not yet 50", if you reject a midrashical explanation for the specific presence of 50, then you are obliged, in this particular case, to a literalist reading: a man was said to be not yet 50 years old. A literal fact. You're confusing two thi...