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Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:49 am And there does seem to be some overlap between 'strong man' and 'thief' in Aramaic - http://cal.huc.edu/showjastrow.php?page=257

Wonderful! I have argued somewhere in this forum that the 'strong man' was the same demiurge, and the divine Christ who imprisons him.

Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:47 am I think the idea that Marcion hated the Son of Man is silly.

I should start to consider the idea that Marcion hated the Son of Man more seriously, instead.

Thank you to open to my fantasy new ways to go. I will explore that idea, really.

I believed that it was clear, Ben, that I have corrected my error, precisely here: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4540&start=20#p91857 I would say that for the 80% I think that there is mention of the Son of Man in Marcion, but for the 20% I am open to consider the other ...

6. Marcion incorporated a Danielic terminology which is used by Jesus in the third person for the most part 7. Jesus even goes so far as to refer to the 'Son of Man' in negative terms - i.e. a thief 8. the Son of Man is a just figure in Daniel but the heretics used Daniel to argue for two powers 9....

And Stuart and I proved somewhere in this forum that the famous militaristic saying of Jesus (“I bear a sword, not the peace”) is a proto-catholic anti-marcionite interpolation in Luke.

One of the responses would clearly be - the Son of Man is militaristic in Daniel but Jesus is not militaristic - nevertheless Jesus does reference the Son of Man consistently in the third person.] nowhere Jesus is described as militaristic in the Gospels if not in Matthew (often) and in Mark only a...

Would a bunch of subsistence level agrarian farmers and city dwelling peasants fathom anything at the level of a gnostic? If such myths have their root in poverty and despair it seems that the core of the myth would be likely to have a far more simple base. Only the wealthy would have the time, edu...

Evidently prof Vinzent is able to see the anti-Jewish use of the term "Son of Man" by Marcion, differently from Secret Alias: the 'son of man' locution is one of the key markers of Marcion's text - you only need to read Tertullian, how he criticises Marcion for it. Yet, he also gives Marci...

I have too much pride for the following post, that represents the better of the my personal research in the question, hence a new thread to point out it: I am sure that if Ben, Ulan or Stuart or Secret Alias are really smart people :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :cheers: , then they can only re...

The term is danielic but it serves to a typical marcionite anti-thesis: as my commentary of Luke 22 shows (note that I don't need interpolations in this example) the sinedrites - following Daniel - believe that the Son of Man is an exalted man (the man Jesus) and hence they identify him as the "...