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by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

Smith had been previously searching manuscripts. At Mar Saba he went to catalog books not manuscripts, though not a librarian nor bibliographer?
And just happened to find a manuscript in a book near his last day? Coincidence?
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

It is an indication. An argument. Or maybe you, as an owner, puts Clement notes in your Ignatius folder.
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

In some degree---cumulatively. If you had a note about Clement, would you note it with Clement or with Ignatius.
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

Scholem, Nock, Lieberman, Gaster, and at least a couple of his students knew he was capable of this hoax.
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

Scholem, Nock, Lieberman, Gaster, and at least a couple of his students knew he was capable of this hoax.
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

"MS got early liturgy wrong." Wrong for what fit Clement in Egypt.
This, supported from, iirc, Robin Jenson (a Columbia grad, I think), and Peter Jeffrey, an early liturgy specialist, and a colleague prof of Smith's at Columbia.
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

"If a monk wanted to record "Clement" why not do it instead in the Clement edition owned in Mar Saba?" I already supported this today. The 1715 two-volume folio edition of Clement attested at Mar Saba would be a much more plausible place to annotate a Clement addition then in a V...
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

Smith was a Christianity lover, then a Christianity hater.
Sure, I defend that statement.
Why misrepresent my position?
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

The authorship is more consonant with Smith than Clement.
by StephenGoranson
Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 570

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

I defend them all.
Was it this one that offended you:
"Tselikas' expertise of an imitation of earlier text, an imitation that could have been any time until 1958."?
Absolutely, an imitation can have occured in the 1950s.