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The pious women have fear at the empty tomb because they realize that the demiurgical Son of Man is risen, and now, not being more possessed by the divine Christ of the Good God , he is the danielic Son of Man as they knew him before that he was possessed by the divine Christ: as the Destroyer sent ...

“Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me does not welcome me but the one who sent me.” (Mark 9:37) Who welcomes the Son of Man (when the Son of Man is possessed by the divine Christ), he is not welcoming the Son of Man per se, but he is welcomin...

prof Vinzent realizes that the Son of Man for Marcion is a kind of "anti-danielic-Son-of-Man": the 'son of man' locution is one of the key markers of Marcion's text - you only need to read Tertullian, how he criticises Marcion for it. Yet, he also gives Marcion's answer: the 'son of man' i...

14 “When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where it does not belong —let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains (Mark 13:14) Translated for the marcionite insiders: 14 “When you see ‘the Son of Man’ standing where it does not belong —let ...

Hence the "abomination of desolation" is probably Bar Kokhba, believed by Marcion the Messiah of the Demiurge.

Reading Mark again under the separationist hypothesis that the man Jesus (a creature of the demiurge) represents the Son of Man, then when the divine Christ (as distinct from the man Jesus) says: And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in ...

Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:49 am And there does seem to be some overlap between 'strong man' and 'thief' in Aramaic - http://cal.huc.edu/showjastrow.php?page=257

Wonderful! I have argued somewhere in this forum that the 'strong man' was the same demiurge, and the divine Christ who imprisons him.

Secret Alias wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:47 am I think the idea that Marcion hated the Son of Man is silly.

I should start to consider the idea that Marcion hated the Son of Man more seriously, instead.

Thank you to open to my fantasy new ways to go. I will explore that idea, really.

I believed that it was clear, Ben, that I have corrected my error, precisely here: http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4540&start=20#p91857 I would say that for the 80% I think that there is mention of the Son of Man in Marcion, but for the 20% I am open to consider the other ...

6. Marcion incorporated a Danielic terminology which is used by Jesus in the third person for the most part 7. Jesus even goes so far as to refer to the 'Son of Man' in negative terms - i.e. a thief 8. the Son of Man is a just figure in Daniel but the heretics used Daniel to argue for two powers 9....