Is that really a modern mainstream argument in biblical studies?Secret Alias wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:40 amBut something like this COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE OCCURRED IN ANTIQUITY WHEN THE FOURFOLD GOSPEL WAS CANONIZED. No of course not. Because things like this never happen.
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- Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: In China the Government is Dictating Scripture
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Re: In China the Government is Dictating Scripture
- Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:38 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Is Pilate an explorer?
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Re: Is Pilate an explorer?
Other answers are possible, for the function of Pilate as bearer of light on an (otherwise dark) affair. Could it be that somehow Pilate was "a pilot"? Planes bear lights. I know that Pilate comes from "javelin", but javelins look like planes without wings. And planes fly throug...
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
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Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
That doesn't sound like that the princes of this world were behind the crucifixion. It sounds like they were actively involved. But maybe I'm reading too much into the English translation. There are spiritual entities who seem to receive unmitigated credit for human words and deeds and for other li...
- Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:24 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
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Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
This way we can have our cake and eat it too. Since others interpret Ps. 2 as referring to demonic rulers acting through humans, then the same thing could be going on in Paul, and thus 1 Cor. 2 and 1 Thess. 2:14-16 would not be in contradiction. I'm not so sure. If a cosmically important person lik...
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
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Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 --- Interpolation or Not?
But "wrath has come upon them to the utmost" doesn't fit my proposal, since it seems to refer to the Jewish war. Perhaps just that part is an interpolation, but once one starts declaring parts that don't match "interpolations" for no other reason than to get a passage to fit, it...
- Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:19 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: 1 Thessalonians 2:13-16
- Replies: 83
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Re: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 --- Interpolation or Not?
GakuseiDon provided a reasonable solution to this verse in another thread --- a solution based on the Jewish scriptures as Paul's source material. Thanks, though I wouldn't give it as strong a claim as a "reasonable solution". But for those who believe that a lot of early Christian ideas ...
- Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Shepherd of Hermas
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Re: The Shepherd of Hermas
It might be worth noting that this is another early text that Earl Doherty believes was written by Christians with no historical Jesus in mind. From his "Jesus: Neither God Nor Man", pages 270-272: For all its length, the names of Jesus and Christ are never used. (The sole appearance of &q...
- Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Traces of docetism in Herod's interest about Jesus
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Re: Traces of docetism in Herod's interest about Jesus
Herod said, “John I beheaded, but who is this about whom I hear such things?” And he sought to see him. (Luke 9:9) I had read too literally this verse , to mean that Herod desided simply to meet Jesus face to face. Really, Herod could very well see Jesus face to face, and in any moment he desired. ...
- Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: New Testament -- which are the mythicist texts? Analysis of Carrier OHJ
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Re: New Testament -- which are the mythicist texts? Analysis of Carrier OHJ
That all sounds pretty earthy to me, GakuseiDon. Are you suggesting that references to burning of the bodies of sacrificed animals is figurative, or that the gate outside which he suffered was a spiritual gate? No, I agree it all sounds 'earthly' in Hebrews to me also. Just playing devil's advocate...
- Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: New Testament -- which are the mythicist texts? Analysis of Carrier OHJ
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Re: New Testament -- which are the mythicist texts? Analysis of Carrier OHJ
1 Peter is “historicist, Ha!” because the writer who of course claims to be Peter says he witnessed Jesus’ sufferings and 2:21-23. I think that even mythicists generally regard 1 Peter as 'historicist'. But why are the references so vague, then? Why not give concrete times and places? 1 Peter has P...