I would have gone withPeter Kirby wrote: Loaded question ... I did not expect that I would have to spell that out.
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- Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:26 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Blasphemy!
- Replies: 40
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Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
- Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story
- Replies: 72
- Views: 33969
Re: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the S
Does he question why the church didn't seem fit to preserve Papias Expositions of the Oracles of the Lord or does he just chalk it up to a historical accident? IIRC it survived the middle ages. You do, Carlson's translation of Harnack seems to list 1534 as the last mention http://hypotyposeis.org/w...
- Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:45 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story
- Replies: 72
- Views: 33969
Re: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the S
Does he question why the church didn't seem fit to preserve Papias Expositions of the Oracles of the Lord or does he just chalk it up to a historical accident?
- Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story
- Replies: 72
- Views: 33969
Re: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the S
I should add here that Bird argues for the use of notebooks in the early church. He notes the reference to parchments in 2 Tim 4:13. And it is also clear that notebooks were used by students of rabbis as well as standard in ancient instruction. I wonder if he's arguing that Jesus' disciples followe...
- Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:52 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story
- Replies: 72
- Views: 33969
Re: The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the S
When does he date Acts?
- Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:19 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Tertullian Accepts Paul had a Written Gospel, Matthew (!)
- Replies: 172
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Re: Tertullian Accepts Paul had a Written Gospel, Matthew (!
A sayings gospel by Matthew then? Regarding Mark, yeah the order thing but in the part I quoted, it seems Papias is really stressing that Mark didn't have any falsehoods in his gospel.
- Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:25 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Tertullian Accepts Paul had a Written Gospel, Matthew (!)
- Replies: 172
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Re: Tertullian Accepts Paul had a Written Gospel, Matthew (!
I just started reading (literally I'm on pg 14) MacDonald's Two Shipwrecked Gospels and he's discussing Papias' remarks on Mark and Matthew. He says that there's at least three versions of Matthew that Papias is discussing, the original in Hebrew/Aramaic in the correct order, and at least two Greek ...
- Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
- Replies: 425
- Views: 181143
Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
So there should be evidence of someone, anyone, denouncing the man, had he not existed. And this is the critical time period when people could recall living memory to refute it. We also see no counter claims against heresy. If this character had been created 200-400 years in the past, I would be ri...
- Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
- Replies: 425
- Views: 181143
Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
So there should be evidence of someone, anyone, denouncing the man, had he not existed. And this is the critical time period when people could recall living memory to refute it. We also see no counter claims against heresy. If this character had been created 200-400 years in the past, I would be ri...
- Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Carrier and the silence in Paul and early epistles
- Replies: 100
- Views: 71561
Re: Carrier and the silence in Paul and early epistles
Thanks Neil, but I think you forgot a hyperlink.