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I have to get ready for another football (soccer) match but I will say that the fragments which exist of the Marcionite/Clement of Alexandria narrative where the ten commandments are examined culminating in 'do not lust' and the rich youth saying this is too hard and either walking away or dying or ...

... or perhaps more specifically (and more in keeping with what the rabbinic sources say) the Jews and Samaritans eventually took Moses's Torah (the 603 utterances beside the ten commandments) a man-made law to be equal with what was given by god on the mountain. I think this is what is behind Paul'...

I have found a few personal correspondences with Boid about the Samaritan 'roofless' houses of worship: At this point I have to thank you for forcing me to think these questions through, because I suddenly realised the significance of some ancient data on the Dositheans. The Dosithean reformer Sakta...

What Vinzent seems to be saying IIUC is that Marcion was sympathetic to the Jews as a group but hostile to the Jewish God, the World Creator. But it is still a step in the right direction. This whole notion of 'hating' someone or a group of people when you really disagree with them (or better yet p...

My theory would be that before Irenaeus Jews and Christians and Samaritans were all engaged in dialogue with one another. I am not even sure that 'Christians' were so-called. There were just Jews, Samaritans and proselytes who (a) preserved the understanding that there was a second power made visibl...

I would even go one step further than merely saying that Marcion was Jewish. Is the Christian Church Father Papias preserved in the Mekhilta? https://books.google.com/books?id=SJxhmejBISsC&pg=PA293&dq=%22In+tractate+Beshallah+of+the%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiXhq3GtMrPAhVVVWMKHTIu...

Stuart, I don't think you are aware of Segal's point that the Church Fathers and the Jews who battle over the 'two powers' tend to use the same proof texts - https://books.google.com/books?id=TSnyL06y0LYC&pg=PA91&dq=marcion+%22two+powers%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwieqpqhssrPAhVB7GM...

And Justin's discussions which absolutely parallel the two powers material are also 'coincidence'? So too the Marcionites identifying Jesus as a 'man of war' (Exodus 15:3) again coincidence? I will stop here because I don't want to drag my ish/anashim parallels from the Pentateuch and Jesus 'sightin...

Back from my lunch of hokkein me noodles - I suspect the 'noodles' is superfluous because the normal (Hong Kong) pronunciation of the vermicelli dish mei fun ('bei hun' in Singapore oddly enough) - and soccer training. Back to Stuart's argumentation: An easier explanation, which greatly reduces the ...

Stephen, take your lithium. You know you're angry when you don;t eat or take your meds. Not eating definitely has side-effects on my personality but Giuseppe's posting an even greater effect. Fundamentally you have the entire equation of heretical thought on God backwards. Odd that Two Powers makes...