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by Peter Kirby
Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 94451

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Six samples are taken of the homilies known as ' In Jeremiam ' 12-20 (continuing the numbered homilies on Jeremiah). The samples are taken along homily division: 12th-13th Homily (4195 words), 14th Homily (3791 words), 15th-16th Homily (3612 words), 17th-18th Homily (4283 words), 19th Homily (2187 w...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 94451

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

The compilation known as the ' Philocalia ' was broken into 17 samples, each approximately 3500 words in length. The same list of 33 words was used. The author of the ' Contra Celsum ' was considered the 'Origen' author candidate. Between Origen and Eusebius, Origen was selected as the better author...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 94451

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

Or, because the text itself records the substance of a dialogue between Origen and Heraclides, referring to "Origen" in the third person, the text may have been written by one of Origen's students or someone else who attended the affair.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 94451

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

The ' Dialogus cum Heraclide ' measures 3613 words long. The direct quotes were removed first. The same list of 33 words was used. Between Eusebius and Origen, Origen is selected as the better candidate. Among 33 candidates, Origen was edged out slightly by one of the controls. This may just be an e...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Savior
Replies: 22
Views: 16364

Re: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Sa

Perhaps a published work in two volumes: Volume 1: Proving the Obvious (get people on board with the method). Volume 2: The Scintillating Stuff (Paul, Acts, Clement, Ignatius, and all the other sexy suggestions that have been made here, and more). Ben. :D I hadn't considered publishing books on sty...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Savior
Replies: 22
Views: 16364

Re: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Sa

You may really be on to something here. Breakthrough technology. Thank you! I wish I could claim that I invented this, but the basic idea of fitting frequently-used words to a normal distribution in reasonably-large samples and comparing authorship on the basis of several of them has been around a ...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Savior
Replies: 22
Views: 16364

Re: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Sa

Methodologically speaking, Peter, is it more secure that Origen is not the author than that Clement is ? Sort of. Yes, there is more probability behind the conclusion that Origen was not the author ... although that doesn't imply that "Clement is the author" is improbable, less probable t...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Savior
Replies: 22
Views: 16364

Re: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Sa

Homily 1 on Jeremiah. This text was identified as (more like) Origen's (than anyone else). The "fragments from the catena" of "on Jeremiah" (which were closest to Clement of Alexandria) begin here: https://books.google.com/books?id=UFInXpKNapEC&pg=PA280 http://snag.gy/XU1Xy....
by Peter Kirby
Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Savior
Replies: 22
Views: 16364

Re: Pseudo-Origen's Homily on Jeremiah & the Words of the Sa

My title is tongue-in-cheek, based on Peter's stylometric results suggesting that Origen's Homily on Jeremiah is actually by Clement of Alexandria. Anyway, I decided to check out this document I have never heard of and found a translation I can preview at Google Books. https://books.google.com/book...