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Excellent work Ben. Thank you for your kind words. :) Have you ever thought the reason much of Pauls work is debated on the topic of interpolations, is because it was a community effort with more then one hand involved in writing these Epistles/letters ? I have often wondered, yes, how much the Pau...

Though of course the term could be used in perfectly ordinary ways (as you pointed out in the case of Paul), essentially meaning presence as opposed to absence (Greek απουσια ), in certain contexts it (and the corresponding Latin adventus ) also took on a quasi-technical sense pertaining to visitin...

Matthew didn’t get the term parousia from Mark, but granted, this doesn’t directly address whether Matthew used 1 Thessalonians. Other than the LXX, are there any other good options? I doubt the LXX had anything to do with the use of the term. Craig Evans, Commentary on Mark 8.27-16.20, pages lxxxv...

What are your clues that Mark might have known 1 Thessalonians? 1 Thessalonians 4.15-17 1 Thessalonians 4.15-17 overlaps with Mark on the (arch)angel(s), the use of a sun word, and the clouds. 1 Thessalonians 4.15-17 overlaps with Matthew on the (arch)angel(s), the use of a sun word, the clouds, th...

1 Thess 4:13-18 13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, about those who have died, so that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have died. 15 For ...

robert j wrote:I guess apostles have to eat too.

As the (apostate) son of a Baptist-pastor-turned-charismatic-missionary, I find I can somewhat relate with Paul when it comes the delicate matter of suggesting that the epistolary recipients bear in mind those who make a living from their religious work.

Ben.

to Ben, Question for you: Do you think that Mark and 1 Thessalonians are independent? Or do you think that one knew the other? I think Mark knew about a few of Paul's epistles, very likely the Corinthians, Romans & 1 Thessalonians. For the rest, I wanted to say the evidence of any connection be...

Thank you, Kunigunde. In the follow-ups to that post, it became apparent that there were other problems, as well, with the notion of an interpolation including 1 Thessalonians 4.13-18. I have modified my proposal to account for these problems, and now am considering that passage to be original, with...

The seeming immediacy of 1 Thessalonians 4.13-18 is still a problem, so an interpolator adds 5.1-11. Either the same interpolator, or another from the same general (Matthean or quasi-Matthean) milieu, also adds 1 Thessalonians 2.13-16. I think there is as much immediacy in 5.1-11 as in 4:13-18. Act...

Needless to say, I am far from being convinced Matthew knew about 1 Thessalonians or any interpolator of 1 Thessalonians knew about gMatthew. You may be right, but I am not sure how your argument works. You take the approach of dismantling the uniquely Matthean parallels one at a time, but I do not...