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by Giuseppe
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "But not during the festival"...
Replies: 16
Views: 10540

Re: "But not during the festival"...

Traces of that Markan separationism are found also here: He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross (Colossians 2:14) So it appears more and more evident that the man Jesus is symbol of the Law since he is the Most Perfect Observant of the Torah. If ...
by Giuseppe
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "But not during the festival"...
Replies: 16
Views: 10540

Re: "But not during the festival"...

So it is explained why on the cross the same Law is crucified: 1)The man Jesus fulfilled the entire Law (according to Cerinthus, the original reader of proto-Mark) 2) therefore the man Jesus is the same Torah 3) therefore the Jesus/Torah is crucified by the divine Christ 4) only by confessing that t...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "But not during the festival"...
Replies: 16
Views: 10540

Re: "But not during the festival"...

Corollary of the previous posts: If the crucifixion of a mere man served only to make vain the effects of that crucifixion for the his killers (=allegory for the Judaizers), then only the crucifixion of the same divine Christ could really have some decisive effect on the "true" Pauline Chr...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "But not during the festival"...
Replies: 16
Views: 10540

Re: "But not during the festival"...

So the separationism in Mark finds his justification in the following words of Paul: I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the gr...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "But not during the festival"...
Replies: 16
Views: 10540

Re: "But not during the festival"...

There is the concrete possibility that the Jesus passage in Slavonic Josephus could reflect the knowledge of the Gospel I am talking about that could precede Mark. 1. At that time also a man came forward,—if even it is fitting to call him a man [simply]. 2. His nature as well as his form were a man'...
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist
Replies: 12
Views: 27953

Re: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist

Surely, using the Ehrman/Wallack terminology, separationism becomes incarnationism after the Empty Tomb in Mark: the man and the spirit become one and the same being. This union may be seen as a form of adoptionism: the spirit adopts the man by becoming forever one with him.
by Giuseppe
Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 500 BCE Vase of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ
Replies: 41
Views: 39660

Re: 500 BCE Vase of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ

I think it is easy to imagine, Giuseppe. Remember that, from the 18th C, but more particularly the 19th C, the idea that all religions were a derivation of a common theme was highly influential among the educated public. There were many Christian scholars who wanted to prove that Krishna and the ot...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "But not during the festival"...
Replies: 16
Views: 10540

"But not during the festival"...

The revolt when Barabbas was captured is just that revolt that had to happen "during the festival": "But not during the festival ," they said, "or the people may riot ." (Mark 14:2) A man called Barabbas was in prison with the insurrectionists who had committed murder i...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 500 BCE Vase of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ
Replies: 41
Views: 39660

Re: 500 BCE Vase of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ

A question: assuming that the gem is a forgery, who could made it and why? Were there mythicists (more precisely, mythicists who would have liked "to prove" the pagan origins of Christianity) already in the Middle Age? Even if he could prove that it was a forgery, he would still have to a...
by Giuseppe
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 500 BCE Vase of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ
Replies: 41
Views: 39660

Re: 500 BCE Vase of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ

A question: assuming that the gem is a forgery, who could made it and why? Were there mythicists (more precisely, mythicists who would have liked "to prove" the pagan origins of Christianity) already in the Middle Age?