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by billd89
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bolland's view on the relation between the earliest gospel and the destruction of the Temple
Replies: 12
Views: 461

Re: crucifixion au ciel

Bolland was really the first scholar, even before Couchoud himself!, to talk about a celestial crucifixion in outer space You play that meme alot. So much, I saw this and needed to share: https://64.media.tumblr.com/1c283946af8127f03be08b4a91c4248c/6fd5eda041f92600-0a/s640x960/5ff8b2af0f76e78af5e79...
by billd89
Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:12 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Analysis of Philo on Therapeutae
Replies: 5
Views: 507

Re: Something is Not Quite Right w/DVC

While Conybeare's massive edition of 1895 has held sway in the English-speaking world, implying that the description of the Therapeutae is a (somewhat idealised) factual account by Philo, pesky foreigners have detected something not quite right with the DVC. Lucius (1880) argued it was a C3 Christi...
by billd89
Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven"
Replies: 8
Views: 281

Re: John 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven"

Which heaven?
Denying Enoch, Melchizedek, Moses ... others?
by billd89
Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origins of the idea of creation through Christ
Replies: 8
Views: 331

Re: Christos Supercedes the 100yo Creation Myth

A Ptolemy orders a very small group of scribes (Mosaic Cult?) to consolidate/rewrite Jewish lore for their Alexandrian political agenda. Israel should be a vassal and buffer state. Another Ptolemy continues the project. Over 100 yrs or so, the assembled writings, a canon, eventually becomes the Tora...
by billd89
Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origins of the idea of creation through Christ
Replies: 8
Views: 331

Re: Philo is NOT the Innovator

But I also see the possibility of the Creation being assigned to the Lord as having preceded the Gnostics. Because if you look at Philo, Philo is the one who assigns the Creation to the Logos, and Philo is surely pre-Gnostic. ... so I don't know. It's hard to say the degree to which the opening of ...
by billd89
Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bolland's view on the relation between the earliest gospel and the destruction of the Temple
Replies: 12
Views: 461

Re: Bolland's Alexandrian Thesis

Thank you for this! I'm not in agreement w/ many of the claims, HOWEVER Bolland (1907) is offering ideas which may have interested the scholars who I am tracking: there's obvious overlap. More conservatively, E.R. Goodenough (1935) argued for a Jewish mystical cult - his thesis was ignored. I need t...
by billd89
Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:17 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Quintessence: The Fifth Essence is (like God) Unmentioned
Replies: 0
Views: 231

Quintessence: The Fifth Essence is (like God) Unmentioned

For Philo, the Fifth Essence is Indescribable, so left largely unspoken . FIVE unifies: it is both divine and divinizing, like a metacosmic glue, a force operating at the substratum of Reality. It effects a God-becoming Synthesis . The implications are vast! Two examples: So the Chrism or Water bapt...
by billd89
Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:16 am
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Tetraktys of the Decad, 4-as-10.
Replies: 0
Views: 183

Tetraktys of the Decad, 4-as-10.

This looks to be a very important philosophical and organizing principle, evident in '4-Step programs' which crop up in several odd places (Paul, the Hermetica, Philo). It's not coincidental nor imaginary. Nor is it novel to Marcion (150 AD) or the Valentinians (c.125 AD). Irenaeus (180 AD) knew it ...
by billd89
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Seth, Son of Adam = Son of Man = Christ
Replies: 1
Views: 123

Hot Topic, Discuss!

Greatly interests me. Where does this Seth myth arise? I'm whipsawed on this one, and it keeps me up nights.

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by billd89
Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Only god is good" as Mark's compromise to eclipse "Only the Father, not YHWH, is good"
Replies: 20
Views: 716

The Point

I said Marcion was an AntiSemite (Anti-Jewish). Someone asked for proof of that "extreme" claim. I showed it wasn't "extreme" at all. **Evidence** Whether you(or anyone) agrees 'Marcion was an AntiSemite' - the game of dueling scholars - is of no consequence to me. Different opin...