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by billd89
Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Only god is good" as Mark's compromise to eclipse "Only the Father, not YHWH, is good"
Replies: 20
Views: 716

Re: Correction

"Marcion was venomously Anti-Jewish - hardly a neutral witness." That's an overstatement. I would remove 'venomously' - because it presumes he made harsh antisemitic statements, acted atrociously. (Which might be true, but I cannot prove.) However, we may reasonably infer Marcion was Anti-...
by billd89
Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Only god is good" as Mark's compromise to eclipse "Only the Father, not YHWH, is good"
Replies: 20
Views: 716

Marcion was an 'Anti-Semite' (Anti-Jewish)

Marcion was venomously Anti-Jewish - hardly a neutral witness. Is there evidence for this extreme claim? Extreme? Not at all. True. Purging Luke of the 'Jewish bits'? And Apelles' repudiation of the Law, Patriarchs? (Apple didn't fall far from the tree.) I would assume everyone can simply read at f...
by billd89
Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:34 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Barbelo-Gnostic Marsanes, c.200 AD?
Replies: 4
Views: 657

Re: Barbelo-Gnostic Marsanes, c.200 AD?

Outside Fact#1: Sethians were well-established and known in the time of Josephus, ergo 3 generations at least (before 10 BC). However, nothing suggests to me this Untitled Text of Bruce Codex is any earlier than 150-200 AD. The text was found in Egypt and - since Xian themes permeate and overwhelm E...
by billd89
Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Only god is good" as Mark's compromise to eclipse "Only the Father, not YHWH, is good"
Replies: 20
Views: 716

Re: Marcion was an Anti-Semite

Marcion was venomously Anti-Jewish - hardly a neutral witness. I imagine that there was a mass apostasy after YHWH did not avenge his Temple's destruction and the Roman slaughter of His People. That didn't turn every (fmr) Jew 'anti-YHWH', however; some became pacifist agnostics, others esoterically...
by billd89
Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:34 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pauline Satan: not a Cosmic Power
Replies: 10
Views: 633

Re: Thank you!

Thank you for the Cohn recommendation, Cosmos, Chaos, and the World to Come . I read Pursuit of the Millenium about 25 years ago and remember it as a great read (then.) I especially liked his writing style. My focus here/now is especially the Hermetica - I don't have a strong sense of 'Satan' (in wh...
by billd89
Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Only god is good" as Mark's compromise to eclipse "Only the Father, not YHWH, is good"
Replies: 20
Views: 716

I cannot follow you

Bolland's point is that we see the same pattern in action: Philo was disgusted by literalist reading of Genesis, etc, hence he introduced a "superior" allegorical reading of it That's rubbish. ''Disgust'' is the wrong characterization, and he "introduced" nothing. Allegoresis lo...
by billd89
Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Pauline Satan: not a Cosmic Power
Replies: 10
Views: 633

Where does Satan come from?

I don't believe there's a single definition of God for ALL the Diaspora Jews AND Gentiles across the Levant, Asia Minor, Greece abd Italy - the sprawling Eastern Mediterranean Zone. In that area, there must have been +100 subcultures 50 BC-50 AD. 'God' must have been understood many different ways. ...
by billd89
Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: "Only god is good" as Mark's compromise to eclipse "Only the Father, not YHWH, is good"
Replies: 20
Views: 716

Re: Like Philo's "Two God Theory"?

Know your myths! "The Good." It sounds Monadic. The appearance of the Christos (#3) after the Logos (#2) and the Unknowable Supreme God (#1) is just one conceptualization, c.25 BC or so. The Church Fathers had difficult work, c.300 AD, sanitizing a plethora of systems which had popped up ....
by billd89
Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:06 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Of Porphyry: DATING Gnostic Lineage, Teachers, Schools
Replies: 0
Views: 295

Of Porphyry: DATING Gnostic Lineage, Teachers, Schools

S. McKenna's translation of Porphyry: On the Life of Plotinus and the Arrangement of his Work from Plotinus: The Enneads Many Christians of this period {262-68 AD} --amongst them sectaries {b.210-220 AD} who had abandoned the old philosophy, men of the schools {c.230-240 AD} of Adelphius {c.170-230...
by billd89
Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"
Replies: 81
Views: 26748

Re: The Identity of Celsus and His "Jew"

If -- following one theory, that The True Doctrine dates c.125 AD -- Celsum got his information partly from Jewish prophets in Phoenicia, then Celsum was referring to the same decade and area in & on which Philo of Byblos (c.125 AD) wrote. Celsum knowing the Four-fold Gospels in 125 AD will also...