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by MrMacSon
Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
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Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

to cienfuegos, History would be the same with or without your unknown Jesus. How do you know about what course history would have taken without Jesus? Unknown? not according to Paul & gMark & Josephus Ant. 20, 9 (1st cent.). Maybe you expect some accidental healer from Galilee to have been ...
by MrMacSon
Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

To understand the evidence, one needs a certain amount of education on the topic to process the evidence, you refuse it. That is nasty ad hominem shit that outhouse keeps repeating. Maybe you have noticed a pattern here. The most highly educated people are either agnostic about a HJ or leaning towa...
by MrMacSon
Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

John 1 (KJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth ...
by MrMacSon
Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

No outhouse, you mean you are incapable of providing information or a suitable set of propositions or statements that might back up your bare assertions.

You are incapable of providing a suitable argument.
by MrMacSon
Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

He was an Aramaic Jewish teacher running around Galilee healing for food scraps, by the totality of evidence we possess. the evidence is ...? references; citations; etc are applicable: "he who avers, must prove" Sorry you fail again. O I originally started my conversation with Bernard in ...
by MrMacSon
Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

outhouse wrote: He was an Aramaic Jewish teacher running around Galilee healing for food scraps, by the totality of evidence we possess.
the evidence is ...?

references; citations; etc are applicable: 'he who avers, must prove"
by MrMacSon
Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

Sheshbazzar wrote:
Bernard Miller wrote: Jesus did not preach any sermons,
I am interested. Can you explain how you arrived at this conclusion?
I'm interested too.
by MrMacSon
Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

to MrMacSon, No. I'm saying it's as likely, or more likely, that the so-called disciples were later preachers, like Paul. How do you evidence "it's as likely, or more likely, that the so-called disciples were later preachers, like Paul" (rather as having "Mark" reacting to an ey...
by MrMacSon
Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181106

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

Those discrepancies or disputes suggests doctrinal disputes as much as, or more than, disputes among disciples. What do you mean by that? Are you now admitting Jesus had disciples? No. I'm saying it's as likely, or more likely, that the so-called disciples were later preachers, like Paul. Hence, th...