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by Russell Gmirkin
Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:43 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

Would you be kind enough to try to answer this question, even by citing from something which you have published? The Library of Alexandria surely collected books, mostly on papyrus. But is there evidence that they created anthropological field studies to create books in non-Greek languages? I will ...
by Russell Gmirkin
Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:22 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

Would you be kind enough to try to answer this question, even by citing from something which you have published? The Library of Alexandria surely collected books, mostly on papyrus. But is there evidence that they created anthropological field studies to create books in non-Greek languages? Stephen...
by Russell Gmirkin
Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:40 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

Actually, ABuddhist, the REG 2006 Berossus book was not published by Routledge. I am somewhat familiar with Routledge, since they published my co-authored Origin of Kibosh: Routledge Studies in Etymology. Instead, the Berossus book was published by T. and T. Clark. If you, ABuddhist, don't get your...
by Russell Gmirkin
Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:16 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

I am aware of the terminology. I have written here--more than once--that MT (standardized) is much later than 270s bce. So, yet again, we agree on that point. But that is not an answer to my question just above. To answer it: no. No, the two "proto" categories that I mentioned do not &quo...
by Russell Gmirkin
Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:59 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

However one might define "proto-LXX" and/or "proto-MT" (not Platonic categories?), do any such definitions exclude any pre-270s versions of a written Torah? It's Tov's terminology. Proto-LXX is the original Hebrew Vorlage behind the LXX. A standardized MT text did not emerge unt...
by Russell Gmirkin
Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:05 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

The MT is not the original text. However there are numerous cases where the Samaritan Pentateuch and the LXX agree against the MT and on internal evidence the MT is original. See for example Shared TraditionLXX by Emmanuel Tov. This may cause problems for the idea that both the Hebrew Vorlage of th...
by Russell Gmirkin
Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:08 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria
Replies: 161
Views: 18021

Re: The Problem With The Theory That the Pentateuch Was Written in Alexandria

Concerning the part of this thread specifically about Alexandria, it may be worth quoting parts of an open-access article* (please do go there for the full context, which also includes some praise of other aspects) addressing the Gmirkin Alexandria Torah-writing proposal: "...Yet, I have probl...
by Russell Gmirkin
Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:23 pm
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

Well, my major problem with Gmirkin's model is that if the Pentateuch was inspired by Plato and was an attempt to fuse Greek learning with Hebrew culture, why did the Pentateuch portray a flat Earth when Plato accepted that the world was spherical? Did the Pentateuch's authors regard a flat Earth a...
by Russell Gmirkin
Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

Has anyone in the history of the study of the Bible before Gmirkin ever noticed how "Platonic" the Pentateuch is? I ask this as someone who doesn't know the answer. They've always studied Plato. Christians started studying the Bible since the second century. Many since Justin did the two ...
by Russell Gmirkin
Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:32 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Plato and the Pentateuch
Replies: 366
Views: 214301

Re: Plato and the Pentateuch

And have you read Plato? I mean sat there with your edibles and gone through the Republic beginning to end? And after that picked up the Pentateuch. Would anyone really come up with the idea that the authors of the Pentateuch borrowed from Plato? I mean really? Philo is certainly Platonic and he in...