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by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
Replies: 87
Views: 44910

Re: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer

Sure, whatever.

But Carrier's principle point/argument in the post is that the "prior probability" of the historicity of Paul is high (...and much higher than that of Jesus).

That is not begging the question, not an ad hominem, not a red herring, and not poisoning the well.
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
Replies: 87
Views: 44910

Re: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer

I get the impression that you dislike Richard Carrier and consequently aren't trying to understand whatever the best points of the post might be.
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
Replies: 87
Views: 44910

Re: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer

I had a brief look at that blog post by Carrier ~12 hours ago. I find Carrier infuriating in that he often starts long-winded blog posts with poisoning-the-well ad hominems , as he does against Detering in that post, and other red-herring type stuff. I asked how you consider it "begging the qu...
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
Replies: 87
Views: 44910

Re: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer

MrMacSon wrote:his reasoning for Paul per se seems the be a "begging the question" fallacy.
Are you saying his argument is "Paul existed, therefore Paul existed"?

Or, what are you saying?
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
Replies: 87
Views: 44910

Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer

A new post from Richard Carrier: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/7643 The argument for the authenticity of the letters is, for me, the most interesting part: We know there are many letters forged in the name of Paul. In fact, most letters attributed to Paul are forgeries (several in the...
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 94013

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

The ' Libri x in Canticum canticorum ( fragmenta )' measures 2688 words, before quotations are removed, and 1829 words, after quotations are removed. Clement of Alexandria is selected as the best candidate before quotations are removed and as the second-best candidate (just behind one of the control...
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 94013

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

The ' In Jesu Nave homiliae xxvi ( fragmenta e catenis )' measures 3138 words, after quotations are removed. The best candidate selected for authorship is Clement of Alexandria, and the second-best candidate is Origen. With only one sample from which to get a reading, these results are inconclusive....
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)
Replies: 22
Views: 31863

Re: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)

The program right now is very raw. It has about 600 lines of Perl, written over 3 to 4 days or so. Point is, I am by no means opposed to putting more work into it. Of course the biggest problems are more 'theoretical' or scientific than technical.... Ie, finding what techniques offer increased accur...
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)
Replies: 22
Views: 31863

Re: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)

Very good feedback. Thanks. Glad just to know anyone's actually interested in using it, other than me. Those all sound like good features. And 'automated word discovery' could itself lead to increased accuracy and/or decreased subjectivity. Thanks again for this valuable feedback. Also yes if I load...
by Peter Kirby
Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
Replies: 76
Views: 94013

Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study

The ' Fragmenta in Lucam ( in catenis )' is a tough nut to crack. If divided into two samples of 6000 words each, it goes to Cyril of Alexandria (once) and then Clement of Alexandria (once). If divided into three samples of 4000 words each, it goes to Cyril of Alexandira (once), Origen (once), and C...