Sure, whatever.
But Carrier's principle point/argument in the post is that the "prior probability" of the historicity of Paul is high (...and much higher than that of Jesus).
That is not begging the question, not an ad hominem, not a red herring, and not poisoning the well.
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- Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
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- Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
- Replies: 87
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Re: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
I get the impression that you dislike Richard Carrier and consequently aren't trying to understand whatever the best points of the post might be.
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
- Replies: 87
- Views: 44910
Re: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
I had a brief look at that blog post by Carrier ~12 hours ago. I find Carrier infuriating in that he often starts long-winded blog posts with poisoning-the-well ad hominems , as he does against Detering in that post, and other red-herring type stuff. I asked how you consider it "begging the qu...
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
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Re: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
Are you saying his argument is "Paul existed, therefore Paul existed"?MrMacSon wrote:his reasoning for Paul per se seems the be a "begging the question" fallacy.
Or, what are you saying?
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:13 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
- Replies: 87
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Historicity of Paul, apostle and letter-writer
A new post from Richard Carrier: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/7643 The argument for the authenticity of the letters is, for me, the most interesting part: We know there are many letters forged in the name of Paul. In fact, most letters attributed to Paul are forgeries (several in the...
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
- Replies: 76
- Views: 94013
Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
The ' Libri x in Canticum canticorum ( fragmenta )' measures 2688 words, before quotations are removed, and 1829 words, after quotations are removed. Clement of Alexandria is selected as the best candidate before quotations are removed and as the second-best candidate (just behind one of the control...
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:51 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
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- Views: 94013
Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
The ' In Jesu Nave homiliae xxvi ( fragmenta e catenis )' measures 3138 words, after quotations are removed. The best candidate selected for authorship is Clement of Alexandria, and the second-best candidate is Origen. With only one sample from which to get a reading, these results are inconclusive....
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:22 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)
- Replies: 22
- Views: 31863
Re: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)
The program right now is very raw. It has about 600 lines of Perl, written over 3 to 4 days or so. Point is, I am by no means opposed to putting more work into it. Of course the biggest problems are more 'theoretical' or scientific than technical.... Ie, finding what techniques offer increased accur...
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:15 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)
- Replies: 22
- Views: 31863
Re: Basic Stylometry Beta (early access)
Very good feedback. Thanks. Glad just to know anyone's actually interested in using it, other than me. Those all sound like good features. And 'automated word discovery' could itself lead to increased accuracy and/or decreased subjectivity. Thanks again for this valuable feedback. Also yes if I load...
- Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
- Replies: 76
- Views: 94013
Re: Origen -- A Basic Stylometric Study
The ' Fragmenta in Lucam ( in catenis )' is a tough nut to crack. If divided into two samples of 6000 words each, it goes to Cyril of Alexandria (once) and then Clement of Alexandria (once). If divided into three samples of 4000 words each, it goes to Cyril of Alexandira (once), Origen (once), and C...